| 1 year ago :: May 04, 2012 - 9:58AM #211 | |
Dishonesty in discourse is more or less par for the course from the anti-Israel. anti-Zionist, anti-Semitic communitie(s).
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| 1 year ago :: May 04, 2012 - 10:03AM #212 | |
Language, like culture, is a huge ship that you cannot manoeuvre at whim, like some politically-minded think it should be.
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| 1 year ago :: May 04, 2012 - 3:36PM #213 | |
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It's unreasonable to want to maintain the ability to say to a Semite that they are an anti-Semite, but the pale, blond European Jew accusing you is the real Semite. Dictionaries be damned, logic is its own excuse for reason. Admit it, it's a word that no longer serves its original purpose. Trying to get Arabs to go accede with more eurocentrism in favor of non-Semites is a waste of time. That's especially true when there is little else of WWII racism that Jews want to hold on to. This one raises pro-Israel funds; that's why its nostalgia is so precious. Disclaimer: The opinions of this member are not primarily informed by western ethnocentric paradigms, stereotypes rooted in anti-Muslim/Islam hysteria, "Israel can do no wrong" intransigence, or the perceived need to protect the Judeo-Christian world from invading foreign religions and legal concepts. By expressing such views, no inherent attempt is being made to derail or hijack threads, but that may be the result. The result is not the responsibility of this member.![]()
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| 1 year ago :: May 04, 2012 - 4:46PM #214 | |
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Miraj Most of us speak English. If you are going to speak English you have to accept common usage of English words. Logic has very little to do with language and even less to do with your screed. |
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| 1 year ago :: May 04, 2012 - 5:04PM #215 | |
I don't speak eurotrash. Since you speak English, you know it's changing all the time. Since we outnumber you, we'll make this term change, too. Disclaimer: The opinions of this member are not primarily informed by western ethnocentric paradigms, stereotypes rooted in anti-Muslim/Islam hysteria, "Israel can do no wrong" intransigence, or the perceived need to protect the Judeo-Christian world from invading foreign religions and legal concepts. By expressing such views, no inherent attempt is being made to derail or hijack threads, but that may be the result. The result is not the responsibility of this member.![]()
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| 1 year ago :: May 04, 2012 - 5:14PM #216 | |
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Miraj 1. You do not outnumber us. The vast majority of English speakers prefer to speak English and to use English terms in their proper context and with their proper meanings. Language changes but it does so gradually. 2. One may or may not be a "semite" but that would not prevent one from being anti-semitic if one holds anti-semitic beliefs. One can be anti just about any thing or any group no matter one's affiliation if one holds views and beliefs which are against the group or thing. The rest of your post is beneath you and undeserving of comment. |
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| 1 year ago :: May 04, 2012 - 5:21PM #217 | |
Why do people use this word, eurotrash? Why do you use it? It sounds like it is meant to denigrate my continent in some way - i.o.w., its usage seems to be a variant of racism.
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| 1 year ago :: May 04, 2012 - 5:30PM #218 | |
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Chari I always thought the term "Eurotrash" referred to either 1. European celebrities of the Kim Kardashian type (yes I know she is an American - but I can't think of a totally useless European "celebrity" off the top of my head) or 2. the drunken louts who go to places like Ibiza and behave poorly. I never saw it used in the context supplied by Miraj. Maybe it is just part of that changing language idea. |
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| 1 year ago :: May 04, 2012 - 5:35PM #219 | |
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| 1 year ago :: May 04, 2012 - 5:46PM #220 | |
But I've seen several claims that Semites by definition could not hate Semites. Makes no sense, such an argument. We all can hate our own. Whether we're Semites, Jews, or mere Trash.
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It is also not a particularly nice term.