speed traps in certain cities...yes, I am so sure that going one to three miles over the posted speed limit really matters to the safety of our citizens! about as much as removing the threat of the dangerous frisbie...
speed traps in certain cities...yes, I am so sure that going one to three miles over the posted speed limit really matters to the safety of our citizens! about as much as removing the threat of the dangerous frisbie...
yes, that is due you...it is a shame you had to take time out from your useful work to judge a case that doesn't sound like anything but bs...
where cops are paid extra, as much as 1 1/2 times for certain crimes which are misdemeanors because of the strength of some loud groups who got this injustice accomplished, a set-up for police corruption, for making traps, etc. and as I said, police can lie their butts off, but hey! they are the "finest". Sometimes they are, other times, they are criminal minds with a badge and a gun...
I hope you are never in a situation where you need to be armed. And if you are I hope you do not have to exercise “extreme prejudice” . I know some other posters have had to use a military firearm for its intended purpose and writ they have no remorse. I have defensively used a weapon and it still bother me, forty years after the fact. But firearms is not the subject of this thread; it is the US is still a democracy and are governed by the constitution and the rule of law.
Definition of DEMOCRACY
1 a: government by the people; especially: rule of the majority b: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
2: a political unit that has a democratic government
3capitalized: the principles and policies of the Democratic party in the United States Democracy — C. M. Roberts>
4: the common people especially when constituting the source of political authority
Our Form of government is a Republic ,i.e. elected representatives (see 1a,b above.) Election, Trial by jury of peers, and freedom speech and dissent are still alive functioning in the US in 2012.
“I[seldom]make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.” Edward Gibbon
I completed and passed all the testing for a Concealed Handgun License (CHL) in the state of Texas. I have not begun the process with the state to get my license yet, except for taking the 10 hour course and passing the written test and shooting proficiency test.
Before leaving the CHL class this week I did hired a law firm which defends CHL holders in case they are ever involved in a shooting or even draw their weapon legally.
We have every right to defend ourselves from force or threats of force, protect our property and defend others from same, but that does not mean some law enforcement officer understands we are within our rights. There are those who have legally used weapons only to be arrested, even if only to show the weapon was the "so-called" crime.
After obtaining my CHL I hope I never have to use a gun to protect myself or another, but I will be within my rights to protect myself from anyone wanting to do physical harm to me or others. The law firm is also there in case of a civil suit being filed after a shooting.
Yes, we still have rights, but in some cases it is a good thing to have an attorney to call 24/7, if you need one. At least I felt it was the wise thing for me to do as I go forward with the process of being able to legally carry a weapon in my state.
You may call me Annie.
Gail is correct sometimes people are arrested even though no crime has been committed. At least I heard plenty of stories of CHL holders being arrested for drawing their weapons. One guy had a knife pulled on him by a would be robber. The would be robber called the police after running away, and the CHL holder went to jail. Of course, all charges were dropped, but in the mean time the guy went to jail and the would be robber walked. Another man was arrested defending his own property from punks, no shots were fired, but the property owner went to jail. Again the charges were dropped....and on and on the stories went.
Another 1+ to John David.
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If there was [no direct physical evidence and no credible eye witness], a man should not be: found guilty (because there is/was at least: resonable doubt). If he actually committed the crime...God will have to be his judge.
"Death and life [are] in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof."Proverbs 18:21
so you guys are more comfortable with the purely theoretical than considering the actual injustice done to the man found not guilty----no, not found innocent! was there any accountability for those who arrested him unwarranted? Til there is, there is no justice.
I would say that if police arrest a suspect frivolously, they should have to pay in some way--either directly or by having a bad-looking report card upon which merit raises depend. They be thrown in jail when they commit perjury, too, as is not at all unusual, which we can all see from the smoke billowing out of the hems of their pants...
Democracy means that the people rule: is this true for the USA where legislators are millionaires and require the support of billionaire corporations in order to get elected? Can this be true in a nation where over 93% of the media are owned by&for multinational warprofiteer corporations? Does it really make sense to assault and use chemical weapons on people asserting their "freedom" to assemble and petition their government?
As to "the rule of law", how crazy is it that a shoplifter gets a stiff penalty while a banker steals $millions and gets off free? Or that someone who smokes natural growing substances gets years in prison while cigarettes containing thousands of chemicals, many carcenogenic, are sold in stores across the country.
Why must we be bombarded with $millionaire prigs declaring their values and virtues rather than the People discussing the real concerns of their lives and creating means to alleviate the need of the poor? Why are trillions spent on unnecessary and unjust wars while these prigs denounce the meal a poor kid gets? Why do candidates claim religious affiliation while unlovingly denouncing those in need?
Why is there now a threat that any of us could be locked away without charge for an indefinite period of time? Rule of law, hell no. Rule of plutocracy.
Last time I checked every Representative and every Senator was elected by the people of their district and state respectively . Obama was elected by electoral college that was elected by the people of the Nation. That is democracy.
Sorry if some corporation or PAC bought your vote, that’s on you.
That “natural “ substance alters your thinking and responses, tobacco does not, nicotine int h amount si tobacco product does calm the nerves .
My TV has an off button and a channel selection instrument and there are a million+ sites on the internet and it also has an off function.
National aggression and war are human activities, not good ones , not desirable ones, but a fact of human activity and competition.
You have not been arrested or “detained” for your antigovernment, anti-social, unsubstantiated argumenta posts. Seems that the freedom of speech and dissent are still around .
Democracy means that the people discuss the issues which affect their lives and reach a consensus. Representational democracy is something else: a system whereby citizens cede their participation to others. Thus, in such a system, the sovreignity and energy of the People is bought and sold by those who control the "press", the media. When a free press does not exist (ie., when media is owned by elites/warprofiteers), representational democracy becomes a farce, another form of entertainment, not the will of the community.
Tobacco/nicotine is a substance far more addictive than marijuana, coffee, alcohol, LSD, etc. It has killed millions of Americans and continues to ravage the healthcare of the nation with the results of its poison. The sick and dead and their loved ones do find thought and response altered.
Competition is possible without slaughter, pillage, destruction, theft. However, such requires a committment to principles of fairness. War is never fair, it is power of the most brutal. Humans may engage in it, but it does not represent what is best in the human spirit. War is the failure of humans to respond in love.
My perspectives are not anti-government (go to Mitt&Newt for such), nor are they anti-social (war is the most anti-social activity), nor are they unsubstantiated, you have merely failed to research alternative perspectives.
Democracy means that the people rule: is this true for the USA where legislators are millionaires and require the support of billionaire corporations in order to get elected? Can this be true in a nation where over 93% of the media are owned by&for multinational warprofiteer corporations? Does it really make sense to assault and use chemical weapons on people asserting their "freedom" to assemble and petition their government?
As to "the rule of law", how crazy is it that a shoplifter gets a stiff penalty while a banker steals $millions and gets off free? Or that someone who smokes natural growing substances gets years in prison while cigarettes containing thousands of chemicals, many carcenogenic, are sold in stores across the country.
Why must we be bombarded with $millionaire prigs declaring their values and virtues rather than the People discussing the real concerns of their lives and creating means to alleviate the need of the poor? Why are trillions spent on unnecessary and unjust wars while these prigs denounce the meal a poor kid gets? Why do candidates claim religious affiliation while unlovingly denouncing those in need?
Why is there now a threat that any of us could be locked away without charge for an indefinite period of time? Rule of law, hell no. Rule of plutocracy.
Last time I checked every Representative and every Senator was elected by the people of their district and state respectively . Obama was elected by electoral college that was elected by the people of the Nation. That is democracy.
Sorry if some corporation or PAC bought your vote, that’s on you.
That “natural “ substance alters your thinking and responses, tobacco does not, nicotine int h amount si tobacco product does calm the nerves .
My TV has an off button and a channel selection instrument and there are a million+ sites on the internet and it also has an off function.
National aggression and war are human activities, not good ones , not desirable ones, but a fact of human activity and competition.
You have not been arrested or “detained” for your antigovernment, anti-social, unsubstantiated argumenta posts. Seems that the freedom of speech and dissent are still around .
“I[seldom]make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.” Edward Gibbon
