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4 months ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 8:36AM #34
allthegoodnamesweretaken
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Feb 3, 2012 -- 11:31PM, davelaw40 wrote:


maybe, but I was referring to the Anabaptists




Well, regardless of what religous group you can claim persecution.  I guess I've had the experience, either for good or bad, that I don't have a choice to choose a person of a theistic belief that I see as positive.  As such I've had to allow for a lot. 

I'm not too good at giving morals, and I don't fear the consequence.  If life makes you scared and bitter, at least, it's not for very long.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 04, 2012 - 1:53AM #33
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Feb 3, 2012 -- 11:31PM, davelaw40 wrote:


maybe, but I was referring to the Anabaptists





Not to mention Lutherans, Anglicans and Calvinists.

For those who have faith, no explanation is neccessary.
For those who have no faith, no explanation is possible.

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If one turns his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. Proverbs 28:9
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 03, 2012 - 11:31PM #32
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maybe, but I was referring to the Anabaptists

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 03, 2012 - 11:08PM #31
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Feb 3, 2012 -- 8:03AM, davelaw40 wrote:



I think its a tad more specific; its basically an in house argument. If you are an evangelical Christian and think the Country would be better with more people like your self in office; Mormon's are not evangelical Christians.



Its a funny road because, Evangelicals often disagree on who is in their group (do Charismatics qualify?) and end up compromising by putting conservative Catholics in power which is extreme irony for those are the people that were burning the ancestors of the evangelicals back in the old country






Pagans?;)



It kinda brings me back to the Article 6 argument.  It seems like it is becoming more of that every election. 

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4 months ago  ::  Feb 03, 2012 - 8:03AM #30
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Feb 3, 2012 -- 6:38AM, allthegoodnamesweretaken wrote:


Ok.  Persoanal bias is one thing.  What I had seen was the argument that people were making that a person shouldn't vote for him because he is Mormon. 



Persoanally, I'm not a big fan of LDS either, but tend to lump them into the general heading of "Christian" anyway.  It wouldn't stop me from voting for a candidate. 




I think its a tad more specific; its basically an in house argument. If you are an evangelical Christian and think the Country would be better with more people like your self in office; Mormon's are not evangelical Christians.



Its a funny road because, Evangelicals often disagree on who is in their group (do Charismatics qualify?) and end up compromising by putting conservative Catholics in power which is extreme irony for those are the people that were burning the ancestors of the evangelicals back in the old country


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4 months ago  ::  Feb 03, 2012 - 6:38AM #29
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Ok.  Persoanal bias is one thing.  What I had seen was the argument that people were making that a person shouldn't vote for him because he is Mormon. 



Persoanally, I'm not a big fan of LDS either, but tend to lump them into the general heading of "Christian" anyway.  It wouldn't stop me from voting for a candidate. 

I'm not too good at giving morals, and I don't fear the consequence.  If life makes you scared and bitter, at least, it's not for very long.
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4 months ago  ::  Feb 02, 2012 - 1:52PM #28
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I think its more like to happen with the LDS -I will freely admit I am biased

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 31, 2012 - 4:41PM #27
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So with nothing concrete isn't it kind of silly to state that because one person could be doing it,  that's a reason not to vote for him, when the reality is that it's not different for any of the candidates?

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2012 - 9:02PM #26
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of course

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4 months ago  ::  Jan 29, 2012 - 2:02PM #25
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Jan 28, 2012 -- 12:05PM, davelaw40 wrote:


nothing concrete


but the LDS has been accused in the past of sometimes acting as a phoney Charitable Trust in a tax sense-you give the LDS money to lower your tax burden and they funnel it back to you when you need it





Couldn't various non-Mormon Churches be accused of the same?

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