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3 years ago  ::  Nov 14, 2011 - 2:41PM #1
Kwinters
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Dr Richard Mueller
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3 years ago  ::  Nov 14, 2011 - 3:42PM #2
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This was already the subject of at least one thread. The only thing he "confirmed" is that the locations of the weather stations is not a problem for global warming proponents. While I could not find another site quickly that "debunked" his work, I have seen similar statements from more mainstream sources than the one linked. The main criticism being that world temps have not gone up in the last decade, and Muller basically hid that fact.


 


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Contrary to claims being made by the leader of the Best global temperature initiative their data confirms, and places on a firmer statistical basis, the global temperature standstill of the past ten years as seen by other groups. It is impossible to reconcile this with Professor Muller’s statement. Could it really be the case that Professor Muller has not looked at the data in an appropriate way to see the last ten years clearly? –David Whitehouse, The Global Warming Policy Foundation, 30 October 2011


This is “hide the decline” stuff. Our data show the pause, just as the other sets of data do. Muller is hiding the decline. To say this is the end of scepticism is misleading, as is the statement that warming hasn’t paused. –Professor Judith Curry, Best co-author, Georgia Institute of Technology, 30 October 2011

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 14, 2011 - 4:04PM #3
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Yes, this was discussed extensively in another thread.  What wasn't discussed then, perhaps, is the claim that Dr. Muller was an AGW skeptic prior to doing his own research on temperature data in 2010.  The fact is, he was no skeptic as his own words make clear:


From a 2003 paper: “Let me be clear. My own reading of the literature and study of paleoclimate suggests strongly that carbon dioxide from burning of fossil fuels will prove to be the greatest pollutant of human history. It is likely to have severe and detrimental effects on global climate.”


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Then in an interview in 2008: “The bottom line is that there is a consensus — the [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] — and the president needs to know what the IPCC says. Second, they say that most of the warming of the last 50 years is probably due to humans. You need to know that this is from carbon dioxide, and you need to understand which technologies can reduce this and which can’t. Roughly 1 degree Fahrenheit of global warming has taken place; we’re responsible for one quarter of it. If we cut back so we don’t cause any more, global warming will be delayed by three years and keep on going up….”


…Back in the early ’80s, I resigned from the Sierra Club over the issue of global warming. At that time, they were opposing nuclear power. What I wrote them in my letter of resignation was that, if you oppose nuclear power, the U.S. will become much more heavily dependent on fossil fuels, and that this is a pollutant to the atmosphere that is very likely to lead to global warming.”


www.grist.org/article/lets-get-physical


Ironically, Muller seems more a skeptic now than he was in the past. 

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3 years ago  ::  Nov 15, 2011 - 9:25PM #4
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This thread was moved from US News & Politics

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