"Virgin Sacrifice would not be a "CHURCH" function. CHURCH , etymologically and theologically , is a Christian group. Only Christian groups, organizations, sects, cults, etc refer to themselves as a Church
Word games instead of rational discussion?
Religious practices have been defined, set and accepted by practice and by legal definitio.....
Then the government can prevent a church/whatever from discriminating against a minority or the disabled.
get away from human sacrafice
frame the issue this way:
has the church/school ever waived the ministerial exception in the past? are there ADA ramps for entrance, ADA facilities for toilets, ADA signs for identifiction?-its all or nothing
to maintain the exception-it has to have always been followed
"Virgin Sacrifice would not be a "CHURCH" function. CHURCH , etymologically and theologically , is a Christian group. Only Christian groups, organizations, sects, cults, etc refer to themselves as a Church
Word games instead of rational discussion?
Religious practices have been defined, set and accepted by practice and by legal definitio.....
Then the government can prevent a church/whatever from discriminating against a minority or the disabled.
Maybe you think of them as word games but in a discussion on-line Words are all we have. If you do not use accepted meaning then it is gibberish. The word “CHURCH” is a reference to the Christian religion and the Christian religion neither has nor ever had virgin sacrifices, so to use church and virgin sacrifice is a total false issue. Certain expressions of humanism and atheism are religious in character and nature. I find some humanists and atheists to be as dogmatic as some Fundamental evangelicals.
“I[seldom]make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.” Edward Gibbon
"Virgin Sacrifice would not be a "CHURCH" function. CHURCH , etymologically and theologically , is a Christian group. Only Christian groups, organizations, sects, cults, etc refer to themselves as a Church
Word games instead of rational discussion?
Religious practices have been defined, set and accepted by practice and by legal definitio.....
Then the government can prevent a church/whatever from discriminating against a minority or the disabled.
Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.
I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife.
Virgin sacrifice would deprive the virgin of the right to life and that would involve murder.
The government can't interfere since it is a RELIGIOUS PRACTICE. If the government said no, they'd be prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
The right to practice religion ends if it deprives another party of human rights. Employment is not a constitutional right
Not being discriminated against because of race, creed, handicap, and so on. It boils down to you either give the OK for virgin sacrifice or make it OK for churches to discriminate against the handicapped. The point being that a religion or church cannot be allowed free reign to do whatever they want and claim foul when they go against the morals, and the laws, of the country.
Your way; virgin sacrifice.
My way; churches have to behave in a moral manner.
"Virgin Sacrifice would not be a "CHURCH" function. CHURCH , etymologically and theologically , is a Christian group. Only Christian groups, organizations, sects, cults, etc refer to themselves as a Church
The government would not be interfering with the free exercise of religion but would be protecting the life of the virgin. Religion is a spiritual exercise. Christians “ kill” the believer in the rite of baptism and celebrate Christ’s death in the communion symbolically, spiritually and ritually.
“virgin sacrifice “ can be done symbolically.
Not being ADA discriminated against is not a constitutionally stated right but a legal (by law) derived right.
Religious practices have been defined, set and accepted by practice and by legal definitio. Physically killing, harming, causing another suffering is not with the acceptable religious definition. atheist, agnostics and many practitioners of a religion are not aware of the parameters of religion, the doctrines and rituals of religions and how governments and religious hearchies have come to mutual agreements.
“I[seldom]make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.” Edward Gibbon
Virgin sacrifice would deprive the virgin of the right to life and that would involve murder.
The government can't interfere since it is a RELIGIOUS PRACTICE. If the government said no, they'd be prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
The right to practice religion ends if it deprives another party of human rights. Employment is not a constitutional right
Not being discriminated against because of race, creed, handicap, and so on. It boils down to you either give the OK for virgin sacrifice or make it OK for churches to discriminate against the handicapped. The point being that a religion or church cannot be allowed free reign to do whatever they want and claim foul when they go against the morals, and the laws, of the country.
Your way; virgin sacrifice.
My way; churches have to behave in a moral manner.
Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.
I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife.
Jane the Straightman is at it again with all that zippy off topic tsimmes.
Go Jane! Do what you to best--kvetch!
I am quite good at that; it's a talent, oh so serious one. I've lived a wondrous, enchanted life and can kvetch with many--it's fun. Still haven't heard what you do for fun. My older middle-aged daughter and I "took our show on the road" at our small Publix market today--what a hoot; we know everyone there. Find some joy in life.............
Kvetching doesn't mean what you think it does.
BTW--I already answered your queston of what do I do for fun--
In my spare time I'm a schiksa guru.
And I cook tsimmes for the masses.
Boring, no fun at all, WG. True fun and joy are not on your menu. So be it. Just for fun what concert you attended was the most fun. Hey, I like the symphony and opera, too. But have you been to a Simon and Garfunkle or Paul Simon concert? Harry Belafonte? Certainly not a Kingston Trio concert. An Elvis concert--my former store manager went to an Elvis concert. No one could pay me to livei n Arizona......
Get over it. You are not aware that kvetch has many meanings, but I doubt you have had many Jewish friends.
Jane--would you explain for us how ANY of your above post relates in any way to the topic of the discrimination suit that the Supreme Court is hearing?
Uh, oh, but, Dot, the phrasing in your posts makes wonder if I would have appreciated your teaching English to my children or grandchildren who did attend public school....
It's evident, Jane, you're just envious.
Come on Dot--be realistic.
Were you taught grammar by NUNS?
If not then you can't possibly be any good at doing anything.....
...Human sacrifice is judged so hideous by society that it falls outside even the most radical definition of religious practice.
Yet, it's a religious teaching, and according to your argument, it should be exempt from our laws and morals.
The issue of teachers in a religious school is a matter that the constitution says is outside of government realm.
As would virgin sacrifice.
Virgin sacrifice would deprive the virgin of the right to life and that would involve murder. The right to practice religion ends if it deprives another party of human rights. Employment is not a constitutional right
“I[seldom]make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.” Edward Gibbon
