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Global Warming Alarmists Debunked
10 months ago  ::  Aug 19, 2011 - 11:33AM #35
IDBC
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Howdy Folks


Here is another link from NASA on the subject of global warming:


green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/18/mappi...

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 19, 2011 - 10:27AM #34
JRT
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One of the main planks in the agenda of anthropogenic global warming denialists is the claim that volcanoes  contribute far more CO2 to the atmosphere than human caused emissions. Recent research has completely debunked that claim. Over the long term human caused emissions are two orders of magnitude (100 times) greater than by vulcanism. In the event of a super volcano (about once every million years, last one was 70,000 YBP) human emissions would still be 2 to 3 times greater.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 12, 2011 - 2:39AM #33
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11 months ago  ::  Aug 04, 2011 - 10:18PM #32
mountain_man
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Aug 4, 2011 -- 6:44PM, Paravani wrote:

...NASA does seem to be taking global warming seriously.  They've actually established an entire section of their website which is devoted completely to Global Climate Change....


As do most other educated, informed, people. The climate is changing and there is no argument there. We will always have deniars, those that don't want to understand, or cannot understand. We just have to move ahead without them.

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11 months ago  ::  Aug 04, 2011 - 6:44PM #31
Paravani
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Hi, All!


I'm ba-a-a-ack!


Thank you, Rangerken, for starting this thread...  even if the news it bears isn't as happy-happy-joy-joy as you had hoped.


NASA does seem to be taking global warming seriously.  They've actually established an entire section of their website which is devoted completely to Global Climate Change.


I am, of course, delighted to hear that the planet is shedding more of its excess heat than was previously thought.  That will not only slow down the rate of global warming, giving us some much-needed additional time to find carbon-fixing solutions, but will also influence the placement of the "tipping point" beyond which any solution comes too late.  It doesn't change the fact of global warming, but it does change the equations a bit -- enough, maybe, to avoid being overtaken by world-wide famine before we can find a solution.  Let's hope so, anyway...


...  Somalia is not a nice place to be right now.  As I noted in the last thread to which I contributed last month before packing up the apartment and moving out of Kansas, it is indeed the carbon-less poor of Africa who are suffering famine first.


The last two weeks have been my own global-warming odyssey, as I fled its effects on Wichita, KS (which has been experiencing triple-digit temps since early May, broken only by one- or two-day thunderstorm-induced retreats into the upper nineties).  I drove away from Kansas in my west-coast-purchased car, which doesn't have air-conditioning because we've never needed it in our home state, so fleeing Kansas meant that the temperature dropped by two degrees every hour I drove for the first five hours -- yay for 95F in Nebraska!


Whew!


That evening, as I drove through the sauna-like heat with one ice-pack tucked under my shirt and another one tucked under my faithful kitten, I tuned in to NPR's interview with the author of The Weather of the Future: Heat Waves, Extreme Storms, and other Scenes from a Climate Changed Planet.


TERRY GROSS, host:


This is FRESH AIR. I'm Terry Gross.


This summer of record-breaking heat followed a spring that brought some of the most extreme weather on record. My guest, climatologist Heidi Cullen writes: It's time to face the fact that the weather isn't what it used to be.


She's the author of the book�"The Weather of the Future: Heat Waves, Extreme Storms, and Other Scenes from a Climate Changed Planet." It's just been published in paperback. And she's a senior research scientist with Climate Central, a journalism and research organization.


We're going to talk about how climate change appears to be creating extreme weather in winter and summer. And we're going to consider the cities Cullen says are likely to be the most vulnerable to extreme weather.


Heidi Cullen, welcome to FRESH AIR.


What makes this month's heat wave in the U.S. unusual - different from other heat waves?


Ms. HEIDI CULLEN (Research Scientist, Climate Central):   I think what's really special about this heat wave is just the sheer size and scope of it. I mean, it basically at one point it was affecting more than 140 million people here in the U.S. And so it's massive in size. It's been a long heat wave and so in many respects this is exactly the kind of thing we can expect to see a lot more of as the planet warms up.


GROSS: Before we get to why you think this is a result of climate change, which is, I think, what you're saying, what are some of the records that this month's heat wave has set so far? And I'll say, we're recording this on Friday, July 22nd. So...


Ms. CULLEN: Yeah. So we could see even more records set today. But, you know, for example, Wichita Falls, Texas had over 54 days of 100 plus temperatures, 27 consecutive days reaching at least 100. Tyler, Texas, we saw 32 days this year of 100 degree readings. So, I mean, it's just that the magnitude and the length of what we're seeing here - Mobile, Alabama, 50 consecutive 90-degree days. So it has just been excruciatingly long period of hot weather.


Oh, yeah, it was excruciating.  I'm SO HAPPY to be home again, where a "hot" day is 85F, and 95F breaks records!  Woo-hoo for the West Coast!  ;-D


To answer the question that I know is on everybody's mind (not?) -- just how IS the corn doing in Kansas?


Most of it looked okay.  Some of the cornfields were in obvious distress, however -- the corn was only four feet tall and obviously not yet ready to harvest, but the leaves and stalks were brown and dried, looking more like material for Halloween decorations than living, growing grain.  Clearly, there will be some losses...  but in late July, the percentage of sunburnt fields in Kansas still looked to be less than 3%.  Of course, that figure could rise as the heat continues through August, particularly if rainfall is less than usual.


Once I was out of Kansas, I saw no more dried-up corn fields.  In fact, the crops throughout Nebraska and Washington were beautiful.  In Nebraska, the corn and other crops were green and lush with growth.  The extra heat has helped there, at least while there's still plenty of water for irrigation.  In Washington, the wheat was golden and ready for harvest, with ripe grain so plump and shining that you could see the individual seedheads even from the highway, passing by at 75mph.  Ooo, it was pretty...


:-D


So here's a great big hug and a kiss to all of you, to celebrate reasonable climes and an end to full-body heat rash!


(((ALL)))


Love,


-- Claudia 


 

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2011 - 10:29PM #30
mountain_man
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Jul 29, 2011 -- 2:23AM, CharikIeia wrote:

To be fair, the Forbes article was written by a partisan journalist (James Taylor from the Heartland Institute), but  it does quote a scientist, albeit also a well-known partisan (Roy  Spencer), and references a scientific study (this one: www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/3/8/1603/pdf).


The article and the "study" are partisan. How could anyone actually believe a "study" from a creationist being paid by big oil and some extremist brothers?

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2011 - 10:28PM #29
MMarcoe
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So the author of the article is basically a creationist. And a lot of creationists are global warming deniers.


Given how creationists typically believe that the world is going to hell because of Adam's sin, you'd think they would embrace global warming, wouldn't they? It would be a great way to further the end of the world and hasten the return of Jesus.


And yet they instead decide to go to bed with rabid capitalists (that is, proponents of the almighty dollar). Are they trying to have their cake and eat it too?

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2011 - 7:02PM #28
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It always surprises me when climate change deniers come out of the woodwork to debunk all the numerous studies that have shown that something is going on with our weather and our world. 


And it surprises me that those same deniers can honestly believe that hundreds of years of humans pouring toxins into the atmosphere, digging up the planet, polluting the waterways, and just generally messing things up would not have a deleterious effect upon our earth's natural systems.


geology.com/nasa/human-linked-climate-ch...


Of course, the deniers have an agenda, and it has to do with being in league with big business.  Because if there was no climate change, or if it was happening very slowly or was of little consequence in the long run, then the big oil companies could go on drilling, couldn't they?  The natural gas industry would have a clear field.  And even the big business of driftnet fishing could go on without worrying about fish dying out because the oceans were warming.  Right? 


Check out this link:


www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/28/arc...


Follow the money.

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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2011 - 4:16PM #27
Tpaine
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Jul 29, 2011 -- 3:47PM, Wanderingal wrote:


Tpaine--if the last line of your above post is supposed to be a link it's not working.


It doesn't appear as a link when I put my cursor on it.



It was not a link. I was attempting to criticize the editorial linked in the OP by mimicking the thread title. IDBC showed how wrong the editorial was in his quoted post.

"The genius of the Constitution rests not in any static meaning it might have had in a world that is dead and gone, but in the adaptability of its great principles to cope with current problems and current needs." -- Justice William Brennan: Speech to the Text and Teaching Symposium at Georgetown University,(October 12, 1985)
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11 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2011 - 3:55PM #26
IDBC
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Howdy Wander


 


Jul 29, 2011 -- 3:47PM, Wanderingal wrote:


Tpaine--if the last line of your above post is supposed to be a link it's not working.


It doesn't appear as a link when I put my cursor on it.




Try these links



news.yahoo.com/climate-change-debunked-n...


www.space.com/12469-climate-change-debun...



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