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3 years ago  ::  Jul 06, 2011 - 10:05PM #1
Lonesentinel
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As America fight about this issue vehemently, it seems that some member of the European Union are seeing many issues with 'open borders' and now are taking a step back from the idea...

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2011 - 7:04PM #2
dearwatson
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There have been call for controlling illegal immigration in the Northern European countries for several years now.  Whether it is stories of sex crime statistics in Norway or how many non-bilingual Poles are on the dole in the UK,  knowing exactly who is in these countries is something that many of their citizens are asking for. 


But, let us be realistic about what is actually being done;  the Danes simply increased the staffing on one German border crossing from something like 20 officers to 50.  Does bring Denmark into portions of EU treaties which insist on the free movement of capitol,  goods and _labor_?  The Germans may know many things about building walls to keep people in,  but it is a difficult position for them to be in when most of the illegal immigrants in Denmark came up through Germany.   

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 08, 2011 - 3:17AM #3
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Jul 7, 2011 -- 7:04PM, dearwatson wrote:


There have been call for controlling illegal immigration in the Northern European countries for several years now.  Whether it is stories of sex crime statistics in Norway or how many non-bilingual Poles are on the dole in the UK,  knowing exactly who is in these countries is something that many of their citizens are asking for. 



Fair enough. They may find out that most of this is not illegal at all, however... E.g., the Poles you mention can freely move where they like, by EU laws.


My impression is, by the way, that UK foreign labourers here in the Netherlands are generally much less bilingual than the Polish foreign labourers here are. Both countries have for years been providing considerable labour force to the local construction sector.



But, let us be realistic about what is actually being done;  the Danes simply increased the staffing on one German border crossing from something like 20 officers to 50.  Does bring Denmark into portions of EU treaties which insist on the free movement of capitol,  goods and _labor_? 



Certainly they violate the Schengen agreement, yes.


There have been calls to boycott tourism to Denmark, which seemingly is met with incomprehension over there. Well, they will need to learn about repercussions. Every action leads to a reaction... www.cphpost.dk/business/business/119-bus...



The Germans may know many things about building walls to keep people in,  but it is a difficult position for them to be in when most of the illegal immigrants in Denmark came up through Germany.   



I don't think illegal immigration is a real issue there. But we'll just have to see how this develops further.

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 08, 2011 - 5:06PM #4
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I think that rather than this being a case of something rotten in Denmark, we are seeing much ado about nothing, or at least the maxim:  'let he who is without e. coli cast the first stone.'  The BBC had an article up on this a day or two ago.  Many of the new inspections are supposedly designed to look for particular types of contraband and transit-code violations rather than day laborers. 


This is just one of several incidents in recent weeks that do show that there are some lingering problems between national governments and the idea of the free movement of labor.  France was refusing to take in people comming up through Italy back over the Spring.  The British always bring out the myth of the 'Polish plumber' when there is an election.

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