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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 7:07PM #161
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Howdy Teilhard


May 30, 2011 -- 6:25PM, teilhard wrote:


My Point is that being humiliated in Public by Contact with The Police is NOT unique to The IMF Guy, and it certainly has NOTHING to do with his being "French" ... 



I agree with you that it has doing the perp walk has nothing to do with him being French.  Nor does the media attention have anything to do with his being French.  His being rich and being the head of the IMF was the reason he was shown on the media doing the perp walk.   This humiliation was at least in part due to his thinking with the head between his legs and not the one on his neck.  Assuming his story of consenual sex is the truth. 


 


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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 7:31PM #162
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For the more skepitical,suspicious and conspiracy minded members in this thread and you know who your are I received this email from my favorite uncle in mexico. 


Strauss-Kahn: "You KNOW this has been in his past!"

(1) The arrest of Strauss-Kahn: a very Jewish Affair
(2) Strauss-Kahn's semen found on Maid's blouse
(3) You KNOW this has been in his past!
(4) Strauss-Kahn assembles
team of ex-CIA spies, criminal investigators & PR specialists
(5) Strauss-Kahn's lawyers are digging into Maid's past to discredit her
(6) Strauss-Kahn was highest-paid public official in the world; his Zionist role via
Cercle Léon Blum
(7) Strauss-Kahn, Jewish by birth and by identity
(identifies with the fight against antisemitism)
(8) Far-right strengthened by Strauss-Kahn assault arrest
(9) Both sides engage Jewish lawyers: Ben Brafman vs. Jeff Shapiro
(10) Strauss-Kahn's 'Golden Parachute': $250,000 severance payment
(11) For such a powerful man to fall, Strauss-Kahn must
have enemies higher up - (Trotskyist) Sherry Wolf
(12) Well-connected Americans are not charged with rapes; Strauss-Kahn lacked Friends in Wall
St
(13) Wall St bosses demand sexual favors from staff, but escape indictment
with friends in high places
(14) Strauss-Kahn led Keynesian Spending revival at IMF - rather than Austerity - to combat GFC
(15) Christine Lagarde, touted as new head of IMF, has close ties to US Corporations
(16) WSWS Trots defend Strauss-Kahn's presumed innocence
(17) Paul Craig Roberts upholds Strauss-Kahn's innocence until proven guilty
(18) Strauss-Kahn's fall is like Eliot Spitzer's before he could get the Wall St banksters
(19) Greenspan and Strauss-Kahn clash on regulation
(20) Strauss-Kahn, in the Soros camp,
proposes a global regulation strategy to the G20
(21) Strauss-Kahn canvasses "insurance levy" on banks, and possibly a tax on financial trading
(22) Era of self-regulation by markets is near the end - Strauss-Kahn
(23) Strauss-Kahn set up for trying to reform the IMF - Chossudovsky
(24) Left's defence of DSK as a victim of 'elite conspiracy' is degenerate - James
Petras


This is just a basic outline.    There is lots more in the email detailing each of  the points but I do have some compassion for those with ADS.


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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 8:01PM #163
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May 30, 2011 -- 7:31PM, IDBC wrote:


For the more skepitical,suspicious and conspiracy minded members in this thread and you know who your are I received this email from my favorite uncle in mexico. 


Strauss-Kahn: "You KNOW this has been in his past!"

(1) The arrest of Strauss-Kahn: a very Jewish Affair
(2) Strauss-Kahn's semen found on Maid's blouse
(3) You KNOW this has been in his past!
(4) Strauss-Kahn assembles
team of ex-CIA spies, criminal investigators & PR specialists
(5) Strauss-Kahn's lawyers are digging into Maid's past to discredit her
(6) Strauss-Kahn was highest-paid public official in the world; his Zionist role via
Cercle Léon Blum
(7) Strauss-Kahn, Jewish by birth and by identity
(identifies with the fight against antisemitism)
(8) Far-right strengthened by Strauss-Kahn assault arrest
(9) Both sides engage Jewish lawyers: Ben Brafman vs. Jeff Shapiro
(10) Strauss-Kahn's 'Golden Parachute': $250,000 severance payment
(11) For such a powerful man to fall, Strauss-Kahn must
have enemies higher up - (Trotskyist) Sherry Wolf
(12) Well-connected Americans are not charged with rapes; Strauss-Kahn lacked Friends in Wall
St
(13) Wall St bosses demand sexual favors from staff, but escape indictment
with friends in high places
(14) Strauss-Kahn led Keynesian Spending revival at IMF - rather than Austerity - to combat GFC
(15) Christine Lagarde, touted as new head of IMF, has close ties to US Corporations
(16) WSWS Trots defend Strauss-Kahn's presumed innocence
(17) Paul Craig Roberts upholds Strauss-Kahn's innocence until proven guilty
(18) Strauss-Kahn's fall is like Eliot Spitzer's before he could get the Wall St banksters
(19) Greenspan and Strauss-Kahn clash on regulation
(20) Strauss-Kahn, in the Soros camp,
proposes a global regulation strategy to the G20
(21) Strauss-Kahn canvasses "insurance levy" on banks, and possibly a tax on financial trading
(22) Era of self-regulation by markets is near the end - Strauss-Kahn
(23) Strauss-Kahn set up for trying to reform the IMF - Chossudovsky
(24) Left's defence of DSK as a victim of 'elite conspiracy' is degenerate - James
Petras


This is just a basic outline.    There is lots more in the email detailing each of  the points but I do have some compassion for those with ADS.


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Hi IDBC


Interesting info.


But  in NYC, do you think anti-semitism was involved. I think not.


The Napoleonic Code is French and not applicable in NYC.


 




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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 9:18PM #164
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The Facts of this Case will be determined in Court ...


May 30, 2011 -- 7:07PM, IDBC wrote:


Howdy Teilhard


May 30, 2011 -- 6:25PM, teilhard wrote:


My Point is that being humiliated in Public by Contact with The Police is NOT unique to The IMF Guy, and it certainly has NOTHING to do with his being "French" ... 



I agree with you that it has doing the perp walk has nothing to do with him being French.  Nor does the media attention have anything to do with his being French.  His being rich and being the head of the IMF was the reason he was shown on the media doing the perp walk.   This humiliation was at least in part due to his thinking with the head between his legs and not the one on his neck.  Assuming his story of consenual sex is the truth. 


 





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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 9:19PM #165
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Howdy Jane


May 30, 2011 -- 8:01PM, jane2 wrote:


 


Interesting info.


But  in NYC, do you think anti-semitism was involved. I think not.


The Napoleonic Code is French and not applicable in NYC.




There is a difference between what is interesting and what is true. 


No I do not think that anti-semitism had a damn thing to do with this case.


And you are correct in that the Napoleonic Code is not applicable in NYC or any other place in the United States. 


I did a quick read through of the Napoloeonic Code:


 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_code


And don't see anything really wrong with it.  


 

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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 9:22PM #166
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Howdy Teilhard


May 30, 2011 -- 9:18PM, teilhard wrote:


The Facts of this Case will be determined in Court ...



I sure hope so. 


 


 




 

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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 9:23PM #167
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May 30, 2011 -- 9:19PM, IDBC wrote:


Howdy Jane


May 30, 2011 -- 8:01PM, jane2 wrote:


 


Interesting info.


But  in NYC, do you think anti-semitism was involved. I think not.


The Napoleonic Code is French and not applicable in NYC.




There is a difference between what is interesting and what is true. 


No I do not think that anti-semitism had a damn thing to do with this case.


And you are correct in that the Napoleonic Code is not applicable in NYC or any other place in the United States. 


I did a quick read through of the Napoloeonic Code:


 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_code


And don't see anything really wrong with it.  


 




Actually some ofthe Napoleonic code obtained at some time in Louisiana. Forget the details.




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3 years ago  ::  May 30, 2011 - 10:45PM #168
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One Function of The Court System is, "Trier of Fact" ...


May 30, 2011 -- 9:22PM, IDBC wrote:


Howdy Teilhard


May 30, 2011 -- 9:18PM, teilhard wrote:


The Facts of this Case will be determined in Court ...



I sure hope so. 





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3 years ago  ::  May 31, 2011 - 3:49AM #169
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May 28, 2011 -- 10:18PM, jane2 wrote:


The only European news I read is on the BBC online. I don't read German and my French is very rusted. The NYT sometimes has stories in its international section.



I see the NYT pieces (& what they publish as 'International Herald Tribune') as more accurate in a way than the BBC. The issue with the BBC is that despite its high standards, it has a penchant to overlook continental Europe. It is very much mired in the old British Empire (now Commonwealth) news channels. You are better informed about Canada, Australia, India, Jamaica, the Falkland Islands, than about France or Germany, when listening to the BBC. When you live in London (as I did for a while) you can easily forget that there is a rest of the world, actually... there's London, and there's the increasingly far periphery...


A fairly good English-language German news source are the English pages of Der Spiegel at www.spiegel.de/international by the way. A tad on the left by German standards, which may mean hopelessly leftist in US terms...


I don't think this is the time and place to discuss recent German history. But I hope you trust me a bit when I tell you that there has been quite an identity overhaul in Germany, after WW2.



I am sorry about your grandfathers. My dad was 33 when WWII began and  was manufacturer's rep in a field that supported the war effort; he and  my grandfather worked together and both were engineers. I do know about  post-war Germany because we read about here when I was a student;  international news was often discussed at our dinner table. Am I an  expert--no.



Thank, Jane - and the very best we can offer is our own honest perspective. I don't think experts are more trustworthy. But there is a distinction between an opinion based on interest and an opinion based on disinterest, which I think is very important to make. More often than not, prejudice about other countries derives not from an interest and real information seeking, but from disinterest and post-hoc justification of stereotypes. That holds for Anti-Americanism over here as much as for Anti-Europeanism in your country.



I am a wee bit shanachie--Irish story-teller. My family thrives on story-telling.



I enjoy these posts of yours, also when I don't interfere with a thread. Thanks for being around, Jane! In a way, you positively prove the possibility of living a good life, eh? That's not always too clear when looking at the discussions here only..

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3 years ago  ::  May 31, 2011 - 4:55PM #170
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The DSK matter has fallen off the radar here, which is usual for criminal cases. There is likely to be little, if any, more reporting on it until the trial (or guilty plea - should he go the plea deal route or conclude that he actually did it and confess). by the time of the trial, it will be a back page story since he will no longer be the IMF chief and will be just another rich guy who behaved poorly or worse.  


I sort of like the BBC coverage of Canada although the National Post, www.nationalpost.com/ and the Globe and Mail, www.theglobeandmail.com/ and even Macleans www2.macleans.ca/ do a better job.


As a side note, Macleans is a perfect example of why traditional media is killing itself - at the same time that he became free on the net - it raised its print copy price to the US to astronomic levels. (It used to be about the same as un-discounted Time or Newsweek subscription - which no one ever buys since they are always discounted)

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