As a scientist how would you determine wether or not such evidence if released was not altered or faked entirely.
This cannot be answered without going into the details of the evidence, which - as we know - is impossible because said evidence has not been provided yet.
But generally speaking: you cannot fake the whole truth, so I would want to know the whole truth. Faking always is local, about specific minutiae. Fakers can get through with their lies by spoonfeeding peacemeal information, because such local small stuff they can control to some degree. The more small units are faked, the more likely they will contain inconsistencies. One lie typically entails a few more lies, and thus the spiral to hell is entered. The whole truth, full transparency: nobody can control or fake that, it stands on its own. Truth sets us free.
So the alleged documentation says that the pilots were trained in the US.
So what?
That OLB was at the head of the chain of command is "irrelevent"?
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I don't understand how you can say that it is irrelevent that OLB was at the top of the chain of command.
It is pointless. If you study how networks organise, you can learn that there is no head and no top-down "chain of command". These notions are not applicable for modern terrorist warfare. A terrorist network is a self-organising, decentralised organisation.
Think of the internet. There is no "central head router" you could knock out and kill the beast.
So ... You don't believe (accept) a Death Report of ANY famous (or infamous) Person unless you have observed The Autopsy; performed The DNA Tests in your own Lab ... ???
What Level of "Evidence" DO you require ... ???
What is -- for you -- so specially special about The (reported) Death of Osama bin Laden ... ???
Most famous people have not been accused of being the author of some of the most violent crimes of the 21st century nor are they the leader of the most sought after criminal/terrorist group by the Untied States. So, yeah. some of us hold Bin Laden's death a little more special than your average celebrity. especially during an international investigation.
So, then ... What Level of "Evidence" -- in THIS Case -- do you require / demand / expect ... ???
Osama Bin Laden, alive. That is the level of evidence I require/demand/expect. However, he was ordered to be executed and then dumped in the sea. He was intentionally silenced and then destroyed, so yeah I find that a little suspect, especially since the amount of information he may have possessed and the fact that he is accussed of committing horrendous crimes.
So, then ... What Level of "Evidence" -- in THIS Case -- do you require / demand / expect ... ???
Osama Bin Laden, alive. That is the level of evidence I require/demand/expect. However, he was ordered to be executed and then dumped in the sea. He was intentionally silenced and then destroyed, so yeah I find that a little suspect, especially since the amount of information he may have possessed and the fact that he is accussed of committing horrendous crimes.
So, then ... What Level of "Evidence" -- in THIS Case -- do you require / demand / expect ... ???
Osama Bin Laden, alive. That is the level of evidence I require/demand/expect. However, he was ordered to be executed and then dumped in the sea. He was intentionally silenced and then destroyed, so yeah I find that a little suspect, especially since the amount of information he may have possessed and the fact that he is accussed of committing horrendous crimes.
>>>>>>> Those who followed the "Bin Laden" drama will not argue about if he is alive or not. Most of us think he is dead. However the way his death was shared is a bit abnormal. Contradictions, concealing information, dead body in the sea (reminds us of the mafia movies!).
There was a rumor that he died few years ago. Who knows. I did not know his name before 9-11 and only knowledge of Bin laden I have were given to me by CNN, BBC, Fox, MSNBC and other media outlets.
As a scientist how would you determine wether or not such evidence if released was not altered or faked entirely.
This cannot be answered without going into the details of the evidence, which - as we know - is impossible because said evidence has not been provided yet.
What eividence?
DNA evidence?
Photographs of the body?
The Hollywood movies that Obama and others watched of the murder-assaination-execution of OLB?
Fakers can get through with their lies by spoonfeeding peacemeal information, because such local small stuff they can control to some degree. The more small units are faked, the more likely they will contain inconsistencies. One lie typically entails a few more lies, and thus the spiral to hell is entered.
But it does take time to get all the evidence and all the truth. And sometimes inconsistencies occur unintentionally.
It is pointless. If you study how networks organise, you can learn that there is no head and no top-down "chain of command". These notions are not applicable for modern terrorist warfare. A terrorist network is a self-organising, decentralised organisation.
I am not referring to a terrorist network. I am referring to the resistance organization dedicated to oppose the oppression of Dar al Islam by the Zionist Controlled Corporate Capitilist Military Industral Complex known as Al Qeda.
Al Qeda did not come into existence all by itself. Its founder was OLB.
Al-Qaeda (/ælˈkaɪdə/al-ky-də or /ælˈkeɪdə/al-kay-də; Arabic: القاعدة, al-qāʿidah, "the base" or "the foundation"), alternatively spelled al-Qaida and sometimes al-Qa'ida, is a global militant Islamist group founded by Osama bin Ladensometime between August 1988[6] and late 1989.
Al-Qaeda's management philosophy has been described as "centralization of decision and decentralization of execution."[17] Following the War on Terror, it is thought that al-Qaeda's leadership has "become geographically isolated", leading to the "emergence of decentralized leadership" of regional groups using the al-Qaeda "brand".[18][19]
Many terrorism experts do not believe that the global jihadist movement is driven at every level by bin Laden and his followers. Although bin Laden still had huge ideological sway over some Muslim extremists, experts argue that al-Qaeda has fragmented over the years into a variety of disconnected regional movements that have little connection with each other. Marc Sageman, a psychiatrist and former CIA officer, said that al-Qaeda would now just be a "loose label for a movement that seems to target the West". "There is no umbrella organisation. We like to create a mythical entity called [al-Qaeda] in our minds, but that is not the reality we are dealing with."[20]
For further details on Al Qeda and its organization see:
If Osama's death was fake then it could have been done anytime and so, it would have been held back for the moment of maximum political advantage (say, a week before the elections).
He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God. ~ Proverbs 14:31
My questioning has little to do with the possibility of this event being a 'hoax'.
My questioning has to do with assassination of an indivual who possess large amounts of information concerning the terrorist network we are currently fighting against. Then, to top that off, his body is destroyed. Destruction of evidence and silencing of individuals is done in order to stop information that those in power do not want the public to know. Law Enforcement and Governments do this with little to no repercussions or accountability.
NATAS, I don't know why you play this silly game of asking questions you don't care for. It is pointless to answer any of them, as you seem to merely be searching for points to bicker about.
In case I mistake your stance, please tell me what exactly it is that you want me to seriously address. Not a list of twenty small and divergent questions, but one or two big ones.
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