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3 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 3:19PM #1
Ur2
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Has no one noticed? Our Nobel Peace Prize winning Prez has us involved in a civil war in Lybia. Lybia has neither threatened us nor invaded us, yet we are spending hundreds of millions a day rocketing & bombing Lybian National Forces and killing multitudes of civilians as well.

Now we have Three Wars to die for and spend money on that we don't have.

Furthermore, many are saying that it's un-Constitutional.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 4:28PM #2
vra
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And if we and the coalition had done nothing and there was a bloodbath created by the forces loyal to Khadhafy, the right would be yelling and screaming that Obama's ineffective and a wussie to let all those innocent people be slaughtered and their blood is now on his head.


  BTW, it was more the Republicans that insisted that we take action against Khadhafy even unilaterally, but now some of those same hypocrits are yelling at Obama for going ahead with getting involved with the coalition that's been created.


 

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 4:35PM #3
Ur2
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vra,


Nice try.


What about Yemen or Syria or Egypt or Sudan/Darfur or Somalia or Jordan or Iran? Why not them? 


In March, international figures, including U.N. data, put the death toll in Darfur at 200,000, with another 2.5 million people displaced.


But 300,000 are believed to have died in the tribal conflict in the past two years, said John Holmes, who also is the United Nations emergency relief coordinator.


Like I said... nice try.


What about the Constitutionality of this Lybian civil war intrusion? Nothing to say on that? Will Pelosi be asking for his head? Is impaechment out of the question?


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3 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 4:40PM #4
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What about Yemen or Syria or Egypt or Sudan/Darfur or Somalia or Jordan or Iran? Why not them?


 


They have no oil. 

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 4:44PM #5
Ur2
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arielg,


OPEC member Libya is the 17th largest oil producer in the world, third-largest producer in Africa and holds the continent's largest crude oil reserves. It normally pumps around 1.6 million bpd, 85 percent of which is exported to Europe and its output is equivalent to about 2 percent of global oil consumption.


www.cnbc.com/id/41907189/Libya_Oil_Produ...


Doesn't sound like we're getting much oil from Lybia. Anything else?


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3 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 4:54PM #6
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Mar 27, 2011 -- 4:28PM, vra wrote:


And if we and the coalition had done nothing and there was a bloodbath created by the forces loyal to Khadhafy, the right would be yelling and screaming that Obama's ineffective and a wussie to let all those innocent people be slaughtered and their blood is now on his head.


  BTW, it was more the Republicans that insisted that we take action against Khadhafy even unilaterally, but now some of those same hypocrits are yelling at Obama for going ahead with getting involved with the coalition that's been created.


 




 


Absolutely right.  But you will notice there are some here who take exception to fact and reality.

Democrats think the glass is half full.
Republicans think the glass is theirs.
Libertarians want to break the glass, because they think a conspiracy created it.
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3 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 5:12PM #7
Ur2
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Cl,


Do you ever have anything to offer? Isn't it fairly obvious that "the slaughter" and "the oil" really are not part of the equation?


Rather than miming what someone else says and then offering nothing to it, why not step out there really say something?


Does the slaughter in Lybia compare to the slaughter in Darfur?


Sudan produces 500,000 bbl of oil and exports 90%.


What do you know of this topic?


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3 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 5:22PM #8
vra
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First of all, let me just mention that supporting a Security Counsel resolution is not considered an act of war by either our standards or international standards, and there's not been a Supreme Court decision on the War Powers Act, so we don't know how they would rule.


Secondly, just because we may take some military action against one country doesn't mean that we supposedly have to attack all who we may consider to be hostiles.  And example was when Reagan attacked Khadhafy's compound in Libya back in the 80's, does one honestly think he should have attacked, the Soviet Union, China, North Korea, Cuba, etc. at the same time?


BTW, I find it very "interesting" that some here blame Obama for doing what Reagan did, plus they contradict themselves because I know some supported our conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan, and yet I don't think they thought we should attack North Korea, Iran, Cuba, and China while we were at it.


Sheer hypocrisy.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 5:23PM #9
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Mar 27, 2011 -- 4:44PM, Ur2 wrote:


arielg,


OPEC member Libya is the 17th largest oil producer in the world, third-largest producer in Africa and holds the continent's largest crude oil reserves. It normally pumps around 1.6 million bpd, 85 percent of which is exported to Europe and its output is equivalent to about 2 percent of global oil consumption.


www.cnbc.com/id/41907189/Libya_Oil_Produ...


Doesn't sound like we're getting much oil from Lybia. Anything else?


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Ur2




It doesn't matter where the oil goes. The point is that American and Western companies want to control it. It is all the same maffia and Western governments  are in their pockets. Why do you think there is such demonizing of Iran?  It is the only country that they cannot control.


The attention is always on OPEC.  Never on the real profiteers of the oil industry, which are the oil companies.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 27, 2011 - 5:42PM #10
Ur2
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arielg,


So the Europeans convinced Obama to attack Lybia?


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