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2 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 10:34AM #641
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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These Are Things Man Was Not Meant to Know.
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Access to WikiLeaks is currently blocked in the United States Library of Congress. On 3 December 2010 the White House Office of Management and Budget sent a memo forbidding all unauthorised federal government employees and contractors from accessing classified documents publicly available on WikiLeaks and other websites. The U.S. Army, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Justice Department are considering criminally prosecuting WikiLeaks and Assange "on grounds they encouraged the theft of government property", although former prosecutors say doing so would be difficult. According to a report on the Daily Beast website, the Obama administration asked Britain, Germany, and Australia among others to also consider bringing criminal charges against Assange for the Afghan war leaks and to help limit Assange's travels across international borders. Columbia University students have been warned by their Office of Career Services that the U.S. State Department had contacted the office in an email saying that the diplomatic cables which were released by WikiLeaks were "still considered classified" and that "online discourse about the documents 'would call into question your ability to deal with confidential information.'"


All U.S. federal government staff have been blocked from viewing WikiLeaks.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikileak#Response_...


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2 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 3:54PM #642
teilhard
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Presumably they would ALSO be forbidden to Drive a Stolen Vehicle or Spend Stolen Money ... So what ... ???


Apr 10, 2012 -- 10:34AM, Karma_yeshe_dorje wrote:


These Are Things Man Was Not Meant to Know.
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Thes...

Access to WikiLeaks is currently blocked in the United States Library of Congress. On 3 December 2010 the White House Office of Management and Budget sent a memo forbidding all unauthorised federal government employees and contractors from accessing classified documents publicly available on WikiLeaks and other websites. The U.S. Army, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the Justice Department are considering criminally prosecuting WikiLeaks and Assange "on grounds they encouraged the theft of government property", although former prosecutors say doing so would be difficult. According to a report on the Daily Beast website, the Obama administration asked Britain, Germany, and Australia among others to also consider bringing criminal charges against Assange for the Afghan war leaks and to help limit Assange's travels across international borders. Columbia University students have been warned by their Office of Career Services that the U.S. State Department had contacted the office in an email saying that the diplomatic cables which were released by WikiLeaks were "still considered classified" and that "online discourse about the documents 'would call into question your ability to deal with confidential information.'"


All U.S. federal government staff have been blocked from viewing WikiLeaks.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikileak#Response_...






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2 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 9:59PM #643
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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Yet exploiting stolen oilfields in a stolen country--is deemed OK! Blatant hypocrisy passes for government policy over there.

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 10:58PM #644
teilhard
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"Stolen Oil Fields" in "a Stolen Country" ... ???  


Which "Stolen Country" ... ???  "Texas" ... ???  "Alaska" ... ???


Ooooops ... !!! Or are we possibly talking about an entire CONTINENT, i.e., e.g., "Australia," which The White Guys (like, Julian Assange) STOLE from The Indigenous People who had already lived there for thousands of Years ... ???  


Or is it the Case in Julian's Self-righteousness, that IF you steal something (even an entire CONTINENT ... !!!) and you can manage to hang on to it long enough you get to KEEP it ... ??? See, I have LITTLE Patience for the Juvenile Self-absorbed Self-righteous Attitudes of a narcissistic Guy like Assange, who wants OTHERS to Follow Julian's Rules, while HE doesn't HAVE to ...


But, okay ... I'll "bite" ...


IF Julian Assange at some Point IS elected to The Senate of Australia, will he personally politically economically CHAMPION The RETURN of The ENTIRETY of The Continent of Australia to its rightful Original Aboriginal OWNERS ... ???  Or is HE going to be just one more of the Run-of-the-Mill Hypocrits like all the rest ... ??? Just wondering ...

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 1:50AM #645
searcher2112
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I was invited to this thread to help my Australian freind understand Amercanisms. I don't understand the dilema though. Seems like a straightforward conversation. Karma doesn't want to give Australia back to the aboes any more than Americans want to give the USA back to Indians

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 1:57AM #646
Mlyons619
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Hmm.  Julian baby's gonna have to somehow extricate himself from his inapprpriate sexist acts towards Swedish wimmen - and possible EXTRADITION TO THE USA TO STAND TRIAL FOR ESPIONAGE - before he can run for the Australian Senate and give the whole of the Australian continent back to the Aboriginese...

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 9:51AM #647
teilhard
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IOW, the *** sniff *** sniff *** (supposed) Moral Superiority is nothing but a hollow Ploy ... 


Apr 11, 2012 -- 1:50AM, searcher2112 wrote:


I was invited to this thread to help my Australian freind understand Amercanisms. I don't understand the dilema though. Seems like a straightforward conversation. Karma doesn't want to give Australia back to the aboes any more than Americans want to give the USA back to Indians





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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 9:54AM #648
teilhard
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The Fact that Assange "went underground" in Sweden in order to avoid The Police and then FLED to Britain and now is strenuously fighting and delaying Extradition BACK to Sweden ... APPEARS to indicate that he is in Fact Guilty-as-Charged ...


Apr 11, 2012 -- 1:57AM, Mlyons619 wrote:


Hmm.  Julian baby's gonna have to somehow extricate himself from his inapprpriate sexist acts towards Swedish wimmen - and possible EXTRADITION TO THE USA TO STAND TRIAL FOR ESPIONAGE - before he can run for the Australian Senate and give the whole of the Australian continent back to the Aboriginese...





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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 10:33AM #649
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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Supreme Court appeal.

The High Court refused permission to appeal to the Supreme Court, but this was granted by the Supreme Court itself, after the High Court certified that a point of law of general public importance was involved in its decision. The point of law certified was whether a prosecutor is a judicial authority. The Supreme Court heard the appeal on 1 and 2 February 2012. The court reserved its judgment, and its decision is expected within weeks.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Judicial_A...

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2 years ago  ::  Apr 11, 2012 - 10:47AM #650
Karma_yeshe_dorje
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Swedish Prosecution Authority.

Compared with many other countries, the Swedish prosecutor is very powerful. The prosecutor conducts both the investigation and brings the case to court.


Swedish prosecutors have three main duties:
• to lead and direct the preliminary investigations of crime
• to make decisions on prosecution issues
• to appear in court to process actions in criminal cases


www.aklagare.se/In-English/

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