A few things that work:

> Collaborate with Chinese and Indian companies and government to make
   latest fuel-saving technology accessible also to these nations.

> Reduce individual and corporate consumption of fuel by...

>> establishing public transport where it replaces lots of individual transport
>> increasing the energy efficiency of existing appliances
>> putting a tax on greenhouse gas emissions, which leads to self-regulating markets

> Replace fossil fuels by other sources:

>> renewable ones wherever possible
>> nuclear as a 'bridge technology'

> If necessary, filter greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere.
   Such sequestration technology is currently being developed;
   old natural gas fields will be used to store greenhouse gases.
   Also, deep ocean sediment storage of CO₂ is being explored.

> Enhance the efficiency of carbon sinks by...

>> stopping deforestation
>> planting tress where there are none now
>> if necessary, artificially creating algal bloom in oceans

> If it's really necessary, reduce solar irradiation by technical means.

Feb 3, 2011 -- 9:54AM, CharikIeia wrote:

A few things that work:

> Collaborate with Chinese and Indian companies and government to make
   latest fuel-saving technology accessible also to these nations.

> Reduce individual and corporate consumption of fuel by...

>> establishing public transport where it replaces lots of individual transport
>> increasing the energy efficiency of existing appliances
>> putting a tax on greenhouse gas emissions, which leads to self-regulating markets

> Replace fossil fuels by other sources:

>> renewable ones wherever possible
>> nuclear as a 'bridge technology'

> If necessary, filter greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere.
   Such sequestration technology is currently being developed;
   old natural gas fields will be used to store greenhouse gases.
   Also, deep ocean sediment storage of CO₂ is being explored.

> Enhance the efficiency of carbon sinks by...

>> stopping deforestation
>> planting tress where there are none now
>> if necessary, artificially creating algal bloom in oceans

> If it's really necessary, reduce solar irradiation by technical means.

The Chinese and Indians have access to this through the free market system.They won't use anything that puts them at an economic disadvantage though,which again begs the question,if the situation is so dire,why were 2 of the worst offenders on the planet, who will also be the two fastest growing offenders in the future as they race towards technological and industrial equality with the west,exempted?

Public transport doesn't work in most places,only densely populated ones.We looked at public transport for my wife when we moved to the DFW area.It was a 45 min drive,but 1 1/2 hrs by DART,and she still had to drive 15 miles to the closest terminal (which was included in the 1 1/2 hrs).Since driving is faster,if they extend DART all the way out to us,her commute would end up being 2 hrs one way.In effect,she would lose her job,her benefits,our ins,etc,by having to use public transport because no way is she spending 4 hrs a day commuting.This is not a unique situation.This is what I am pointing out.Changes come at a human expense.

How will taxing greenhouse emissions affect jobs?This gain is my point.Does the self regulating methods that reduce your tax burden involve reducing employment?

While alternate energy is good,here in the US the same folks who promote AGW are also the same ones who protest wind farms because they kill birds (supposedly),and oppose nuclear energy.Which causes give way here?


The other ideas are good,but don't really relate to my point,which is how the draconian methods of reducing a carbon footprint will affect real people.Most carbon reductions are aimed at reducing energy use somehow,whether auto emissions,factory emissions,electricity usage,etc.I'm asking how you force people to make drastic enough changes to make any difference without ruining their lives.