September 11th, falls on a Saturday this year.

So that this church plans to burn the Koran on Wednesday prior, is a bit off the mark if their stated intent is to make a statement regarding the terrorism radical Islam effected on 911, nine years ago.

As most learned people know, America is not a Christian nation. It was not founded as a Christian nation and it's government is not a Christian theocracy.

But what bigots and zealots of the persuasion described by the article in the OP fail to realize is that a planned burning like that described as the fate for copies of the Koran, another religions holy book, is that the act resembles the same mentality as was afforded by those terrorist radical Muslims who boarded three planes on September 11th, 2001, intent on making a statement against the great Satan United States.

What permits this minister to do this, even though he was not given a permit by the city and Gainesville officials have threatened fines if he goes through with this, is the first amendment. Which says nothing about needing a permit, so as to effect one's freedom of speech. In fact, requiring one is a matter of conflict, but that's another post.

What's interesting is, there is yet no press regarding Muslims responding by burning the Bible in retaliation. Though one can only imagine what would transpire if this article did report that on 911, a Mosque in Gainesville was going to burn the Christian Bible.

It would be a much hotter issue, pun intended, than we witness to date I'm sure. But none the less, it's the message that would be conveyed in either case. That for some the supreme being they worship is thought to require their terrorist activities, their bigoted behaviors, in order to insure that beings supreme presence on it's created earth. As if a god requires mortal assistance to send the message, it's the only one there.

I think burning the Qur'an in this manner, by any so-called "christian" church would be a bad idea and sends the wrong message, no matter how vehemently they may disagree with it.

I'm thinking "Do unto others as one would have them do unto you" might deserve a little more thought, in this case...but that's just my gut reaction (and opinion).

First they burn books.  Then they burn people.

Sep 6, 2010 -- 4:14PM, IDBC wrote:

Howdy

Sep 5, 2010 -- 1:47PM, Weepingangelofthetrees wrote:

September 11th, falls on a Saturday this year.

So that this church plans to burn the Koran on Wednesday prior, is a bit off the mark if their stated intent is to make a statement regarding the terrorism radical Islam effected on 911, nine years ago. 

I think that they will disagree.

Yes, well one can't help that they're stupid,  because their message misses the mark by 4 days. God knows, Hate has an agenda!

Sep 5, 2010 -- 1:47PM, Weepingangelofthetrees wrote:

As most learned people know, America is not a Christian nation. It was not founded as a Christian nation and it's government is not a Christian theocracy.

Do most learned people know that America is not a Christian nation?

America is a Christian democracy.   

No, it is not. Nor has it ever been. That's why there's freedom of religion, and by implication, freedom from the one religion that would think to believe so, in error.

Sep 5, 2010 -- 1:47PM, Weepingangelofthetrees wrote:

But what bigots and zealots of the persuasion described by the article in the OP fail to realize is that a planned burning like that described as the fate for copies of the Koran, another religions holy book, is that the act resembles the same mentality as was afforded by those terrorist radical Muslims who boarded three planes on September 11th, 2001, intent on making a statement against the great Satan United States.

Comparing the burning of the Quran to the Muslims who boarded three planes on 9/11  is a very, very, very, very, stupid comparison.  They do not even come close to degree and intent.

You do realize that repeating "very" indicates a mental disorder tantamount to installing multiple exclamation points at the end of a sentence?!

The burning of the Koran, the burning of American flags by Muslims in Muslim countries, the hijacking and crashing of United American flights into the WTC and the ground of Pennsylvania, all send the same message. Hate!

Sep 5, 2010 -- 1:47PM, Weepingangelofthetrees wrote:

What permits this minister to do this, even though he was not given a permit by the city and Gainesville officials have threatened fines if he goes through with this, is the first amendment. Which says nothing about needing a permit, so as to effect ones freedom of speech. In fact, requiring one is a matter of conflict, but that's another post.

His conscience.  Such as it is.  Now I do not know if he did or did not apply for a permit. 

But if he did should it be granted?

Well, when municipalities and towns grant permits to the Fred Phelps cult, so they can protest at American soldiers funerals, sure!

It's the right of free speech. Just as protesters that show up to oppose the Phelps cult, speak freely against his twisted notion of the one and only way to believe in the one and only god that sent him there.

Sep 5, 2010 -- 1:47PM, Weepingangelofthetrees wrote:

What's interesting is, there is yet no press regarding Muslims responding by burning the Bible in retaliation.

What is also interesting that Muslims in Indonesia are pressuring the US to suppress free speech.

As are the radicals in Afghanistan. Who figure their terrorist tendencies may persuade us to shut up, else they'll kill an American(s), as they're already shouting for Obama's end.

Love that religion of Peace!
LOVE IT.

Sep 5, 2010 -- 1:47PM, Weepingangelofthetrees wrote:

 Though one can only imagine what would transpire if this article did report that on 911, a Mosque in Gainesville was going to burn the Christian Bible.

I might imagine that the reaction would not be as strong as that of the Muslims.

I would not imagine protesters pressuring Indonesia or Saudia Arabia to stop the burning.

  I would imagine, as many Muslims in Muslim countries have burned the American flag, the dead contractors blown up by IED's at roadside, to then hang their charred bodies over the side of a bridge somewhere in Iraq, wouldn't give a care if we did object! They kill us, because they hate us. Asking them to stop proving that, would be a stupid waste of time.

Sep 5, 2010 -- 1:47PM, Weepingangelofthetrees wrote:

It would be a much hotter issue, pun intended, than we witness to date I'm sure. But none the less, it's the message that would be conveyed in either case.

I think it would be a much, much cooler issue.

  Ah yes, but we'll never know.

Sep 5, 2010 -- 1:47PM, Weepingangelofthetrees wrote:

 That for some the supreme being they worship is thought to require their terrorist activities, their bigoted behaviors, in order to insure that beings supreme presence on it's created earth. As if a god requires mortal assistance to send the message, it's the only one there.

I would prefer Christians burning the Quran to Muslim committing terrorism and murdering innocent civilians any day. 

It is not that God either requires mortal assistance it is that the true faith, the true religion must be defended from......those people. 

Hopefully the Muslims will react in the same way as the did during the "Draw Muhammad Day".

Any faith who's faithful believe they are ordained or commanded by their god, to slaughter and oppress people in order to install one and only religion across the whole world, is not only terrorism cloaked in myth, but patently psychotic as is evidenced by creating a higher power, in their lower violently unconscious image. God creates the whole universe but needs people to make sure people know he's god?
That wouldn't even qualify as a valid punch line in a joke.

And let's hope you're not speaking about all Muslims, with regard to reacting the same way as they did during the DMD.

Draw Muhammad Day backfires for Seattle cartoonist

Especially when, in a Muslim country, a teacher was threatened with lashing for gifting a teddy bear to a Muslim boy who chose to name it, "Muhammad". So drawing Muhammad Day, is the best way to inspire the terroristically inclined to come out of the woodwork with an excuse to exact violence yet again.