7 years ago :: Jan 07, 2011 - 1:50PM #21 | |
Much as I share their anti-Bush sentiment, I've never been too impressed with the 9/11 Truthers commitment to objective inquiry. It seems like they're less interested in finding out what really happened on 9/11 than venting their suspicion and frustration. -Istvan |
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7 years ago :: Jan 16, 2011 - 11:48AM #22 | |
Look at past history of CIA experiments on Americans including LSD, mind control experiments and much aside the answer is YES. Interview on russia Today with Ex drug dealer who helped supply money for the CIA www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-kLt9l2cQg&feat... QUOTE:-04.00 "It says that the government will scarific their people to accomplish a goal, and this is not the first time they have done that." ------- www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dZnwQKj5Bg Experiments with LSD QUOTE: 02.30 Even a small amount of "LSD 25 is enought to induce a psycotic state in even a healthly minded person" ------ www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hx2aXPS4hfM&feat... Experiments on soliders LSD also -------- National geographic documentary CIA(SECREAT) experiments www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXPKhNNHTMQ&feat... --------- Documentary, "The living dead" mind control experiments www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZw8NRCPmSc -------------------------------------------------------------------
Thing is you might want to deny the past and the realities of what some in power are prepared to do to people, the truth speaks for its-self. Many of the experiments carried out were done with people not even aware that they were being experimented on, but then if they know, they can effect the results so "hush hush". So you might want to live in a illusion where the people in power, wont scarifice people to futher their goals, but reality is they'll do anything. They might justify the horrors they commit as nessecery, or for the "greater good", but as Oscar Wilde said "Always with the best intencions is the worst work done" To quote Kurts "THE HORROR, THE HORROR" |
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7 years ago :: Jan 20, 2011 - 3:36PM #23 | |
Greg Palast, in Armed Madhouse, notes: "An addiction to helping millionaires help themselves, carelessness about the deaths of thousands and a penchant for mendacity does not mean George and Dick planned the September 11 attack." Something tells me if there were anything persuasive in this conspiracy theory, people like Greg Palast would be shouting it from the rooftops. Or is he in on the hoax too? -Istvan |
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7 years ago :: Jan 20, 2011 - 9:25PM #24 | |
Who knows.
Palast was the one that reported on this, I believe:- news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/events/newsnight/164... PALAST: Their official line is that the Bin Ladens are above suspicion - apart from Osama, the black sheep, who they say hijacked the family name. That's fortunate for the Bush family and the Saudi royal household, whose links with the Bin Ladens could otherwise prove embarrassing. (Funny that it implies they already knew, who was to blame just days after the attacks, how long did it take to arrange for all the Bin Ladens to leave America? Not something you can nessecerily do over night) PALAST: -------- Besides all that, it is clear that if Bin Laden was involved at all it was just to offer funding to this supposed group and was not involved in the actual planing as I already stated before. Scape Goat. |
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7 years ago :: Jan 21, 2011 - 7:04AM #25 | |
Talk about cunning. -Istvan |
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7 years ago :: Jan 21, 2011 - 6:26PM #26 | |
I was referencing Bin Landen, not Saudis, Saudi Arabia has not been blamed at all. Lots of quiet loners did it. Could I ask what you would need to see, to actually consider the possibility that maybe 9-11 was an inside job? Or are you die hard, not prepared under any streach of the imagination, to even consider it? If that is the case, then what is the point, people like you will allow government and those in power to do anything, and never even consider that they could do wrong. George Orwel said that "a patriot always seems to have the ability to not only defend the atrosities carried out by their own side but also the profund ability to not know or deny that they happened at all". Basically, it's a quote from memory and could be slightly off. |
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7 years ago :: Jan 21, 2011 - 8:17PM #27 | |
So do we have such a paper trail? Do we even have a coherent, detailed, verifiable scenario of who did what on 9/11? Because so far all we've seen is a lot of factoids that are supposed to add up to prima facie evidence, but nothing persuasive. -Istvan |
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7 years ago :: Jan 24, 2011 - 10:40AM #28 | |
A paper trail would be direct proof, considering that anyone involved in such an activity would either classify or destroy any documentation that could prove it, that is unlikly to emerge. We do know that a few years before, the American "military", "Security services" did run simulations that looked at planes hitting the pentagon and twin towers, also as stated by the documentary loose change "Charles Burlingame(I believe that is how you spell it) involved in these simulations retired from working at the pentagon, and took a job working for American Airlines, his plane is one that is said to have been hijacked on 911" |
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7 years ago :: Jan 24, 2011 - 11:17AM #29 | |
It just seems like there were way too many people involved to say for sure that all the evidence of the planning was destroyed. And until it comes to light, why should we believe it ever existed? -Istvan |
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7 years ago :: Jan 24, 2011 - 3:34PM #30 | |
Possibly, yet what would/could happen to anyone that tried? If they were involved and assisted then had a change of heart, it would no doubt be seen as cowardice or treason against the agenda, besides as the prositute "witness" said after the JFK assination "if they can get to him, they can get anyone". Not forgetting that those in the security service know full well what you get, if you get out of line, just disappear you, bye bye. Or worse.
Wouldn't that be an ammiture thing to do? hardly professional. As for blackmail, that idea cracks me up, I do not think that people capable of carrying out that type of attack would be easily blackmailed, although it is possible that people higher up could use involvement to black mail those less involved lower down.
It's a cicular arguement, you'll only consider it a possibility went there is proof(Yet if there was proof it would be a fact), and as there is no direct proof, so you'll never consider it a possibility. I do not say they did it, fact. I simply say there are lots of things about 9-11 that beg questions. Sadly thou and here is a reality, even if 100% proof was found, that some rough group in America carried out the attacks for example or the establishment itself did it:- It would be burried, simply because America could not allow that to be known, the damage to Americas reputation would be too great. Therefore never will we be allowed to know either way, but speculation will continue just like with JFK. There is always this thou: ONN News, 9-11 conspiracy rediculas |
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