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Switch to Forum Live View The Texas Board of "Education" is an OXYMORON!
3 years ago  ::  Mar 23, 2010 - 1:02PM #1
Agnosticspirit
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Or else the Texas Board of Education is full of MORONS! Welcome to the further dumbing down of America, if the Texas revisionists get their way. CLICK HERE for the full story.


In the politics of education, it's obvious the "red state" is hoping to rewrite history by downplaying Thomas Jefferson's role in the Enlightenment philosophy that shaped the United States of America. I guess they're threatened by the separation of Church and State and disgruntled that the founding fathers weren't the same kind of Christian TM as the Texas Baptists are?


In their ignorance, the Texas board of "Education" is also rewriting history to place a greater emphasis on the 2nd amendment than they are the first. Cafeteria constitutionalists, indeed.


I'm curious what say teachers have in this. Can teachers go beyond a text to place Thomas Jefferson in his rightful place as one of the foremost of our founding fathers, or do they have to toe the line too?


What's in the water, Texas? Do you really want American kids to be created in  your own image of STUPIDITY?

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 23, 2010 - 1:26PM #2
Iwantamotto
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They don't have 100% support.  In the Star Telegram, there's always the odd letter to the editor or the editorial that says this has to be the most asinine thing ever and will condemn the state to poverty and ridicule (I guess it'd make us Mississippi? LOL J/K)

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 23, 2010 - 1:50PM #3
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That was an interesting article, thanks for the link.


I liked the overall message -- that it's common to try to cast history into a mold that will affirm your ideas. It also pointed out that there is an increasingly sharp struggle over the direction of the American mind -- esp. our young people's minds.


I agree. And would also point out that it's not only the staunch conservative movement (which I wouldn't really define as actually conservative so much as right-wing reactionary) that is a threat to reasonable thought and discourse in our nation and schools.


The Politically Correct thought police mentality coming from the  far left is every bit as sinister and rotting of true free thought, IMO.


We need to watch out for both extremes.

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 23, 2010 - 2:07PM #4
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Forty-eight governors agreed to national education proposed standards.  Only Texas and Alaska governors did not want this for their states. 


State governors and education officials proposed new national standards for K-12 education today, a step President Obama believes is key to improving the quality of the nation's schools. The voluntary guidelines, dubbed the "Common Core State Standards," call on states to teach specific topics in each grade level, replacing present guidelines which vary wildly from state to state.


History is history and it's said "Don't mess with Texas" as a Texan I say, don't mess with history!

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 23, 2010 - 2:31PM #5
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My answer to "Don't Mess with Texas" is "Don't mess with REALITY, Texas"!

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 23, 2010 - 7:59PM #6
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For me this highlights the responsibilty of parents to monitor what is being taught in school at least through high school.


When our youngest was in sixth grade she had an idiot teacher. One afternoon my daughter announced that the US had just about lost WWII at Pearl Harbor. I asked her to sit down and we talked for a very long time about WWII. Same daughter was reading the Leon Uris book on Ireland that year. When said teacher went on and on about the glories of Britain she stood up and asked about what the Brits had done to the Irish. Silencio !!


We are responsible for the education of our children. Foolish and/or lazy parents don't care and theirs are the dumbed-down kids. Unfortunately these kids also grow up and vote.


 

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 23, 2010 - 8:30PM #7
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Mar 23, 2010 -- 1:50PM, mytmouse57 wrote:


That was an interesting article, thanks for the link.


I liked the overall message -- that it's common to try to cast history into a mold that will affirm your ideas. It also pointed out that there is an increasingly sharp struggle over the direction of the American mind -- esp. our young people's minds.


I agree. And would also point out that it's not only the staunch conservative movement (which I wouldn't really define as actually conservative so much as right-wing reactionary) that is a threat to reasonable thought and discourse in our nation and schools.


The Politically Correct thought police mentality coming from the  far left is every bit as sinister and rotting of true free thought, IMO.


We need to watch out for both extremes.





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3 years ago  ::  Mar 23, 2010 - 10:00PM #8
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Mar 23, 2010 -- 1:50PM, mytmouse57 wrote:


That was an interesting article, thanks for the link.


I liked the overall message -- that it's common to try to cast history into a mold that will affirm your ideas. It also pointed out that there is an increasingly sharp struggle over the direction of the American mind -- esp. our young people's minds.


I agree. And would also point out that it's not only the staunch conservative movement (which I wouldn't really define as actually conservative so much as right-wing reactionary) that is a threat to reasonable thought and discourse in our nation and schools.


The Politically Correct thought police mentality coming from the  far left is every bit as sinister and rotting of true free thought, IMO.


We need to watch out for both extremes.




I disagree and find this rather facile: easy to go there. But then I've long been one of those called by Spiro Agnew the effete intellectual elite. That elite, however, has always been taught how to think, not what to think. We don't buy what anyone is supposedly selling without due assessment.




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3 years ago  ::  Mar 24, 2010 - 11:32AM #9
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I understand many right wingers are very...very.... unhappy right now, it's all rather entertaining to watch but once again I'll be the bigger person and extend an olive branch. Just for you, I spent 5 minutes sketching your heroine. Not a bad likeness for such quick work, some faces are easier than others to capture. I'm sure your girl Simone would actually CONTRIBUTE to the discussion and not spend her time on futile rants. 


WWSWD? 


LOL!


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3 years ago  ::  Mar 24, 2010 - 11:53AM #10
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Mar 23, 2010 -- 1:50PM, mytmouse57 wrote:


That was an interesting article, thanks for the link.


I liked the overall message -- that it's common to try to cast history into a mold that will affirm your ideas. It also pointed out that there is an increasingly sharp struggle over the direction of the American mind -- esp. our young people's minds.


I agree. And would also point out that it's not only the staunch conservative movement (which I wouldn't really define as actually conservative so much as right-wing reactionary) that is a threat to reasonable thought and discourse in our nation and schools.


The Politically Correct thought police mentality coming from the  far left is every bit as sinister and rotting of true free thought, IMO.


We need to watch out for both extremes.




Do you have any examples of how the politically correct thought police have actually revised our school text books? Have the contributions of Martin Luther King Jr and Ghandi been overly emphasized by the alleged thought police? Is the subject of "manifest destiny" above critique and reproach in the light of recognizing how horribly wrong that was?


The majority of revisionism comes from the rabid right that WISHES we were a Christian nation when it's obvious we're a nation with a lot of Christian folk, a nation without a recognized state religion.


When a group of fundies try to overturn the contributions of Thomas Jefferson... THOMAS JEFFERSON! It's obvious they want to shape reality to fit into their warped and wishful thinking.

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