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3 years ago  ::  Feb 16, 2010 - 11:30AM #1
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There goes the neighborhood !  


Mexican Lower House Approves Bill to Separate Church and State


 


www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-11/mex...


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3 years ago  ::  Feb 16, 2010 - 11:51PM #2
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Okay... now relate this to American separation of Church and State...

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 17, 2010 - 11:40AM #3
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Not terribly surprising in view of Mexico's history.  For much of the last hundred years the state has been actively attacking the RCC.  Revolutionary governments confiscated church lands and properties and revolutionaries killed priests and nuns.  I am somewhat surprised the RCC was foolish enough to try to influence the state and this measure will likely easily pass all steps.

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 18, 2010 - 9:17AM #4
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Howdy Summer


Feb 16, 2010 -- 11:51PM, Summer813 wrote:


Okay... now relate this to American separation of Church and State...




By example.  The Mexican gov't is following the example of the gov't of the United States.


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3 years ago  ::  Feb 18, 2010 - 10:01PM #5
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Okay... and what does this mean for the United States?

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 20, 2010 - 7:22AM #6
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Is this forum explicitly about the church and state in the United States?


And given how dead it generally is, should it be?


Anyways, I'm glad to see that the government of Mexico is finally starting to throw off the influence of the RCC.  I think it's been clear for a long time that having the state and the church sleeping in the same bed makes the former fascist and the latter corrupt.
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3 years ago  ::  Feb 20, 2010 - 3:20PM #7
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yes and yes


its supposed to be a First Admendment board

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 20, 2010 - 4:00PM #8
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Feb 20, 2010 -- 3:20PM, davelaw40 wrote:


yes and yes


its supposed to be a First Admendment board



Hi Dave,


How about the case in Ashville, NC in which the Religious Reich wants to get rid of a councilman because he is an atheist and the NC Constitution forbids atheists from holding office. IMO, that case would involve Article VI Paragraphs 2 & 3 of the US Constitution. Is that fair game for this board?

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3 years ago  ::  Feb 20, 2010 - 4:49PM #9
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Sure sounds like it to me!

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