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5 years ago  ::  Feb 28, 2009 - 11:57PM #11
CityZen_X
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At this point it is the Cult of Personality that has the people excited, and the fact that the President is not a dim whit, like the failure who left us with this economic disaster.


In time Obama will unravel many 43's ill conceived policies and blunders, and left many rights, oh yea. Then you will really see the polls spike.


But lets face it, a turd in a rain storm would be more popular today than any republicans, and their old world conservative delusions!

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2009 - 9:22AM #12
rabello
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According to a poll that was reported on CNN on Thurs, I think, something like 65% of Americans surveyed believe that we are now "winning" the War on Iraq -- acutally an insurgency-counterinsurgency that resulted from a military invasion-occupation, but I imagine it's more reassuring to consider it a "war" -- but, anyway, 65% percent believe we're "winning" so it's unlikely Iraq will negatively affect Obama's poll numbers, 50,000 left behind notwithstanding.


According to the same poll, only 31% believe we are "winning" the War on Afghanistan -- actually an insurgency-counterinsurgency that resulted form a military invasion-neglected occupation -- but with only 31% believing we're "winning," it remains to be seen if Afghanistan will negatively affect Obama's poll numbers.   The surge is just beginning, already there is an uptick in coaltion and civilian deaths; I read an AP artcle yesterday reporting that more civilians have been killed by coalition forces in 2009 than by insurgents or Taliban fighters.


However, expensive, endless wars notwithstanding, what happens with the economy will be real factor that will affect Obama's poll numbers, positively or negatively


What we see, now, though, is people in his administration actually working, rather than lecturing, the way Bush and Cheney did, and that is definitely refreshing.

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2009 - 10:54AM #13
Chokmah
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The only poll that matters is the stock market, and it is not impressed by the narcissistic sociopath and his personality cult. The stock market, and those who create real jobs and wealth in Amerika, are waiting for the next shoe to drop. Obama intends to usher in a Socialist/Fascist European type regime, with Obama the benevolent Dictator.


 


 



 


 


 

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2009 - 11:26AM #14
catboxer
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Mar 1, 2009 -- 10:54AM, Chokmah wrote:


The only poll that matters is the stock market, and it is not impressed by the narcissistic sociopath and his personality cult. The stock market, and those who create real jobs and wealth in Amerika, are waiting for the next shoe to drop. Obama intends to usher in a Socialist/Fascist European type regime, with Obama the benevolent Dictator.



Why is the stock market the only poll that matters? Real people don't count?


Why don't we just let hedge fund managers decide who'll be president?


It sounds to me like you're just bitter because you're aware that for the foreseeable future, Obama's side will always be the winning side, and your side will always be the losers. That's because Obama's side is the side of patience, pragmatism, tolerance, and openness to experimentation and new ideas, while your side is the side of right-wing Republican reactionism.


And the latest polls show that the overwhelming majority of Americans, besides approving of Obama, are really sick and tired of right-wing Republican reactionism.

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 01, 2009 - 11:14PM #15
Bodean
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Mar 1, 2009 -- 11:26AM, catboxer wrote:


That's because Obama's side is the side of patience, pragmatism, tolerance, and openness to experimentation and new ideas, while your side is the side of right-wing Republican reactionism.




Where??  What??


Tax the Rich? ... Nope!  Socialized Medicine? Nope! Spending out of recession?  NOPE!  Appointing partisan lacky's??  NOPE! ... for that matter .. even the notion of "changing Washington" ..... NOPE!


 


Where are those new ideas??

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2009 - 8:16AM #16
ZafodB
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Feb 28, 2009 -- 11:35PM, Bodean wrote:


Feb 28, 2009 -- 9:35AM, MasterOfSparks wrote:


While conservatives would have us believe that Obama is some kind of fringe element his approval ratings tell a very different story. Barack Obama is looking out for main street America. And that's a change we CAN believe in.


http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/02/63434387/1


Gallup says President Obama's approval rating today is 67%, up from 59% on Tuesday and 63% a week ago.


Gallup attributes the week's improvement to Obama's address to Congress Tuesday night and a sharp rebound among Republicans, from 27% approval to 42%.


The latest rating is based on polling conducted Tuesday through Thursday. Reaction to Obama's new budget proposal should be reflected in coming days.





 


Rasmussen is the only poll worth considering, and they still show a 60% rating, no change from last week.


But hey .. your cherry picking does make your flawed perspective look good1 :p




 


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Actually Rasmussen has 0bama at 58%

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2009 - 9:11AM #17
Christianlib
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Mar 1, 2009 -- 10:54AM, Chokmah wrote:


The only poll that matters is the stock market,


 


 


 




 


Maybe not the silliest statememt made on b'net.  But in the running.

Democrats think the glass is half full.
Republicans think the glass is theirs.
Libertarians want to break the glass, because they think a conspiracy created it.
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5 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2009 - 9:53AM #18
Fodaoson
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Mar 1, 2009 -- 10:54AM, Chokmah wrote:


The only poll that matters is the stock market, and it is not impressed by the narcissistic sociopath and his personality cult. The stock market, and those who create real jobs and wealth in Amerika, are waiting for the next shoe to drop. Obama intends to usher in a Socialist/Fascist European type regime, with Obama the benevolent Dictator.


The only poll that mattered was held in November and another will be held  in November 2010 and 2012.   The stock market is   a complex amalgamation of unknowable factors.  By the way your prophetic voice had failed in the past so why should we listen?   I remember something about McCain beating Clinton in the  general election or was that Rush , or Tenac ,  or acumen or NJ lee? Oh well it was some prophetic voice from the right being wrong


 


 


 


 


 


 



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5 years ago  ::  Mar 02, 2009 - 11:10AM #19
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Feb 28, 2009 -- 11:35AM, haggaion wrote:


Feb 28, 2009 -- 9:35AM, MasterOfSparks wrote:


While conservatives would have us believe that Obama is some kind of fringe element his approval ratings tell a very different story. Barack Obama is looking out for main street America. And that's a change we CAN believe in.


http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/02/63434387/1


Gallup says President Obama's approval rating today is 67%, up from 59% on Tuesday and 63% a week ago.


Gallup attributes the week's improvement to Obama's address to Congress Tuesday night and a sharp rebound among Republicans, from 27% approval to 42%.


The latest rating is based on polling conducted Tuesday through Thursday. Reaction to Obama's new budget proposal should be reflected in coming days.





 


Obama’s 63 percent approval level is about the same as the average of all presidents (62 percent) going back to 1968 during their first month in office. Barack Obama’s “disapproval,” at 24 percent, however, is slightly higher than the average of the other presidents (16%).


 


Soaring it is.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/116026/Assessing-Obama-Job-Approval-One-Month-Mark.aspx




Great point. And you know, I can't wait see how well that approval rating is going to be in 3 months and then and in 6 months.

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 03, 2009 - 10:36AM #20
Kwinters
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Feb 28, 2009 -- 11:35AM, haggaion wrote:


Feb 28, 2009 -- 9:35AM, MasterOfSparks wrote:


While conservatives would have us believe that Obama is some kind of fringe element his approval ratings tell a very different story. Barack Obama is looking out for main street America. And that's a change we CAN believe in.


http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/02/63434387/1


Gallup says President Obama's approval rating today is 67%, up from 59% on Tuesday and 63% a week ago.


Gallup attributes the week's improvement to Obama's address to Congress Tuesday night and a sharp rebound among Republicans, from 27% approval to 42%.


The latest rating is based on polling conducted Tuesday through Thursday. Reaction to Obama's new budget proposal should be reflected in coming days.





 


Obama’s 63 percent approval level is about the same as the average of all presidents (62 percent) going back to 1968 during their first month in office. Barack Obama’s “disapproval,” at 24 percent, however, is slightly higher than the average of the other presidents (16%).


 


Soaring it is.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/116026/Assessing-Obama-Job-Approval-One-Month-Mark.aspx




You conveniently left an important explanatory variable out of your citation:


'The average first-month disapproval rating for these same past presidents was 16%. However, Obama's slightly higher 24% disapproval score is similar to those seen for the most recent two presidents -- Bush and Bill Clinton -- perhaps owing to heightened partisanship or media scrutiny in recent years.' (Ibid)


24 percent disapproval is nothing. And Obama's disapproval is lower than Clinton's was at the same point, and we know how rabid the GOP was when Clinton got in.


ALSO from the article, which you (deliberately?) left out: 'Obama has not retained his initial level of job approval mainly because rank-and-file Republicans -- who already lagged well behind Democrats in their approval of Obama in January -- have quickly become even more critical.


According to weekly aggregates of Gallup Poll Daily tracking interviews, Obama has lost no support from Democrats and independents since taking office, but his approval rating from Republicans has dropped steadily week by week, from 41% at the start of his term to just 30% today.'


 


The fact is that only hard-core right wingers oppose the President.  But they also represent the radical right fringe that is destroying the GOP.

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