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6 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2008 - 2:27PM #1
Erey
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main … do1610.xml

"A surreal scientific blunder last week raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming. On Monday, Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore's chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, and is one of four bodies responsible for monitoring global temperatures, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.

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So what explained the anomaly? GISS's computerised temperature maps seemed to show readings across a large part of Russia had been up to 10 degrees higher than normal. But when expert readers of the two leading warming-sceptic blogs, Watts Up With That and Climate Audit, began detailed analysis of the GISS data they made an astonishing discovery. The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running

It even gets fishier -
"GISS began hastily revising its figures. This only made the confusion worse because, to compensate for the lowered temperatures in Russia, GISS claimed to have discovered a new "hotspot" in the Arctic - in a month when satellite images were showing Arctic sea-ice recovering so fast from its summer melt that three weeks ago it was 30 per cent more extensive than at the same time last year."

How can we trust these people who have so much to gain by global warming and everything to lose if GW is not accurate?
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6 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2008 - 8:27PM #2
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[QUOTE=Erey;907062]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main … do1610.xml

"A surreal scientific blunder last week raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming. On Monday, Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore's chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen, and is one of four bodies responsible for monitoring global temperatures, announced that last month was the hottest October on record.

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So what explained the anomaly? GISS's computerised temperature maps seemed to show readings across a large part of Russia had been up to 10 degrees higher than normal. But when expert readers of the two leading warming-sceptic blogs, Watts Up With That and Climate Audit, began detailed analysis of the GISS data they made an astonishing discovery. The reason for the freak figures was that scores of temperature records from Russia and elsewhere were not based on October readings at all. Figures from the previous month had simply been carried over and repeated two months running

It even gets fishier -
"GISS began hastily revising its figures. This only made the confusion worse because, to compensate for the lowered temperatures in Russia, GISS claimed to have discovered a new "hotspot" in the Arctic - in a month when satellite images were showing Arctic sea-ice recovering so fast from its summer melt that three weeks ago it was 30 per cent more extensive than at the same time last year."

How can we trust these people who have so much to gain by global warming and everything to lose if GW is not accurate?[/QUOTE]


You CAN'T ....

Well .. you can trust the two satelite guys .. but that is about it.
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6 years ago  ::  Nov 26, 2008 - 7:13PM #3
eadler
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[QUOTE=Bodean;907963]You CAN'T ....

Well .. you can trust the two satelite guys .. but that is about it.[/QUOTE]

Bodean, Erey,

A little research would explain the Arctic hot spot.
As long as the surface of the ocean is below the freezing point of an Ice and salt mixture, the sea will freeze. The heat of melting under such circumstances will be released to the atmosphere, causing it to be warmer than usual.
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
An expected paradox: Autumn warmth and ice growth
"As is normal for this time of year, ice extent increased rapidly through most of October. However, this year, the increase was particularly fast, which contributed to above-average air temperatures near the surface. A look back at the entire melt season from March through October reveals that the Arctic sea ice is showing some unusual changes in growth and melt cycles.
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As autumn and winter take hold in the Arctic, sunlight wanes and days get shorter. The ice pack begins its annual growth cycle. The 2008 growth rate was especially strong in early October but subsequently slowed down slightly."
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6 years ago  ::  Nov 26, 2008 - 7:13PM #4
eadler
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[QUOTE=Bodean;907963]You CAN'T ....

Well .. you can trust the two satelite guys .. but that is about it.[/QUOTE]

Bodean, Erey,

A little research would explain the Arctic hot spot.
As long as the surface of the ocean is below the freezing point of an Ice and salt mixture, the sea will freeze. The heat of melting under such circumstances will be released to the atmosphere, causing it to be warmer than usual.
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
An expected paradox: Autumn warmth and ice growth
"As is normal for this time of year, ice extent increased rapidly through most of October. However, this year, the increase was particularly fast, which contributed to above-average air temperatures near the surface. A look back at the entire melt season from March through October reveals that the Arctic sea ice is showing some unusual changes in growth and melt cycles.
...
As autumn and winter take hold in the Arctic, sunlight wanes and days get shorter. The ice pack begins its annual growth cycle. The 2008 growth rate was especially strong in early October but subsequently slowed down slightly."
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