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5 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2008 - 11:21AM #1
mostarka
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I wonder, since religion and state should be kept seperate, why do we always hear about religious beliefs of presidential candidates? Has US moved forward and steped out of ignorance to elect atheist President? Shouldn't President be criticized by policies and decisions he/she makes rather than what he/she does on Sundays?
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2008 - 12:08PM #2
ZenYen
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An openly atheist candidate would not be able to win a presidential election in the United States as things stand now. Any candidate who said "I am an atheist" would be villified, and would unite religious people in a firestorm of protest. In the United States, saying "I am an atheist" is pretty much the same as saying "I was just kidding about wanting to be president."

I agree policies and qualifications are the things voters should look at when voting for a president. But a lot of U.S. voters make their choices on the basis of really silly criteria.
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2008 - 11:21AM #3
mostarka
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I wonder, since religion and state should be kept seperate, why do we always hear about religious beliefs of presidential candidates? Has US moved forward and steped out of ignorance to elect atheist President? Shouldn't President be criticized by policies and decisions he/she makes rather than what he/she does on Sundays?
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2008 - 12:08PM #4
ZenYen
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An openly atheist candidate would not be able to win a presidential election in the United States as things stand now. Any candidate who said "I am an atheist" would be villified, and would unite religious people in a firestorm of protest. In the United States, saying "I am an atheist" is pretty much the same as saying "I was just kidding about wanting to be president."

I agree policies and qualifications are the things voters should look at when voting for a president. But a lot of U.S. voters make their choices on the basis of really silly criteria.
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2008 - 1:33PM #5
JohnQ
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ZenYen wrote:

An openly atheist candidate would not be able to win a presidential election in the United States as things stand now. Any candidate who said "I am an atheist" would be villified, and would unite religious people in a firestorm of protest.

I agree policies and qualifications are the things voters should look at when voting for a president. But a lot of U.S. voters make their choices on the basis of really silly criteria.



Amen Brother!

I would have no problem voting for an atheist candidate as long as her/she held a large percentage of my values and political beliefs.  To me, what a person does...how he/she treats and respects other people is more important to me than his/her religion or lack of the same.

As a Christian, I am not called to discriminate against others that believe differently from me.  I am called to care for my fellow humans.

Peace!                 
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Christian LIES wed Christian HATE......Begot a child....it’s named Prop 8! 

Supreme Court let it stand.....which means we can vote away the rights of others in our land.

Sad as that may be...it hurts all of us.....not just me.
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2008 - 3:57PM #6
dblad
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I would vote for an atheist candidate for president over a  religious right candidate, especially of the caliber of Pat  Robertson.
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2008 - 4:45PM #7
Genocon
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People freaked out about JFK being Catholic and Mitt Romney being Mormon.

And they're Christians.

Basically, anyone that doesn't at least have the appearance of being an evangelical Protestant Christian is going to have a hell of a time getting elected to the presidency in this country. Even McCain mysteriously went from being Episcopalian to Baptist.

Remember the media circus over Keith Ellison being elected to office, a Muslim who was sworn into office on Thomas Jefferson's copy of the Koran. Some were convinced the Islamic revolution had begun.

"...but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."

We fail this miserably. Sure, we don't give candidates an official test, but we certainly do give them one by way of general social bigotry.

I wish that candidates didn't even get sworn in on any religious text. They should be sworn in on copies of the Constitution. After all, that is the document they are pledging to "preserve, protect and defend."
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2008 - 10:19PM #8
rosesinjanuary
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I am a christian with what I hope a very good close relationship to my god. However i would prefer an atheist myself if he or she was a himanitarian and not a pharasie .
Lisa
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 01, 2008 - 11:56PM #9
Sacrificialgoddess
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rosesinjanuary wrote:

I am a christian with what I hope a very good close relationship to my god. However i would prefer an atheist myself if he or she was a himanitarian and not a pharasie .
Lisa



What does that mean?  :confused:

Dark Energy. It can be found in the observable Universe. Found in ratios of 75% more than any other substance. Dark Energy. It can be found in religious extremists, in cheerleaders. To come to the conclusion that Dark signifies mean and malevolent would define 75% of the Universe as an evil force. Alternatively, to think that some cheerleaders don't have razors in their snatch is to be foolishly unarmed.

-- Tori Amos
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5 years ago  ::  Jul 02, 2008 - 1:33AM #10
Gwyddion9
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Gencon,
While I understand your point, “People freaked out about JFK being Catholic and Mitt Romney being Mormon. And they're Christians.”
The point is, they are were not or are not “their” flavor of Christianity. Christianity is an exclusive religion and in that religion, many Christians are exclusive to those only of their understanding of Christianity. That’s why you hear comments such as “they’re not real Christians.”

S.G.
I think rosesinjanuary means an atheist who is a humanist rather than a Pharisee.

I think an atheist President could do well but again, we’re dealing with human beings who can make mistakes. It would be refreshing, imo, to have a president who takes care of all its citizens rather than kissing up to religious groups. Unfortunately, too many people cannot, or perhaps more honestly, won’t see outside their religious box. The stickers on the box are way too important for them, rather than being concerned about the contents.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind. Dr. Seuss


Let My Worship be within the heart that rejoiceth, for behold: all acts of love and pleasure are my rituals. And therefore let there be beauty and strength, power and compassion, honor and humility, mirth and reverence within you. Charge of the Goddess
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