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1 year ago  ::  Mar 12, 2012 - 11:54PM #2321
Mlyons619
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"...{The shooting by an American soldier that left 16 Afghans dead} makes me more determined to make sure that we're getting our troops home. It's time ...


"But what we don't want to do is to do it in a way that is just a rush for the exits ... We've got to make sure that the Afghans can protect their borders and prevent Al-Qaeda from coming back, and so we're going to have to do it in a responsible way..."


Obama - "No Rush to the Exits"



No Mr. President.  We need to be out now.  We need to be responsible to our Military.


Thie soldier in question was on his THIRD deployment and had recently suffered a traumatic head injury.  He was an eleven year veteran with a wife and two kids, and now he's damaged beyond repair.  If he's not found guilty of murder and sentenced to life inprisonment, he'll probably spend the remainder of his days in a mental institution.


Most of our troops over there have done three-plus deployments.  Morale in the military is low.  Nobody truly believes that their presence is going bring democracy to this backward, tribal, fundamentalist society.  Karzai will fold once we leave and the Taliban will take over.


We're saving nobody, Mr. President.  Please get us the Hell out of that cesspool of a country and save our sioldiers...

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 14, 2012 - 5:40PM #2322
Stardove
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I agree Mark.  Someone with a TBI should not have still been in a combat zone. 


The military is wearing out the troops, too thin with too many deployments to the war/s.  It is time to come home and get out of the war business (period).


A soldier returning from Afgan held up security at DFW Airport yesterday, because he had one bullet (loaded ammo) in his bag.  He said he thought everything had been removed.  After the delay he was turned over to the Army according to local news reports.  DFW was the first security check he went through.  I figure he had to change terminals for this to have happened.  He was coming from Atlanta, but didn't go through security there.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 18, 2012 - 7:27PM #2323
Mlyons619
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It does look like JAG is going ahead with prosecuting SSGT Bales with the murder of sixteen sleeing Afghans.



US SOLDIER TO BE CHARGED WITH AFGHAN KILLINGS


"...Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, the Army soldier who is set to be charged in the killings of 16 Afghan civilian men, women and children, spent the weekend in pretrial isolation as military prosecutors prepared a case that may carry the death penalty...


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1 year ago  ::  Mar 19, 2012 - 5:09PM #2324
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From what I have read in newspapers and online, the US military is criminally liable for intentionally deceiving soldiers, for economically exploiting them, for pushing them beyond their endurance into states of murderous and suicidal trauma.  Sgt. Bales was promised pay, opportunities denied, limited tours:  he was cheated, repressed professionally, and pushed beyond his endurance and beyond what he signed up for.  Of course, the US military ends up treating its soldiers with the same abuse with which it treats the citizens of nations which it chooses to invade, occupy and exploit.


www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/19/afghan...


The US military also engages in torture and is complicit with known torturers in violation of international law and in violation of US laws and it's own codes.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 19, 2012 - 5:56PM #2325
Mlyons619
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Once again, johndavid23, you display apalling ignorance of military policy.  There is nothing "illegal" about redeploying our troops, and while I think it unwise to keep rotating them back into combat zones it is NOT illegal.  SSGT Bales was not some impresskionable 18-year old.  He was recruit out of collge.  He was an experienced combat veteran and staff NCO.  He was not "bamboozles" into anything.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 19, 2012 - 6:53PM #2326
johndavid23
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Actually, you appear ignorant of Sgt. Bales view and his wife's view of what the US military did to them.  Read the news before posting.

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1 year ago  ::  Mar 19, 2012 - 8:14PM #2327
Mlyons619
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No.  I've read what Bales' wife posted.  However it is understood by experienced soldiers that the needs of the service outweigh the preferences of the individuals, so NO "illegalities" were committed in sending SSGT Bales back into a combat zone.  Perhaps not wise, perhaps not morally righht even, but certainly NOT illegal  Again, you are clearly not knowledgeable of how military orders are cut.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 01, 2012 - 10:03PM #2328
fodaoson
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Mar 19, 2012 -- 8:14PM, Mlyons619 wrote:


No.  I've read what Bales' wife posted.  However it is understood by experienced soldiers that the needs of the service outweigh the preferences of the individuals, so NO "illegalities" were committed in sending SSGT Bales back into a combat zone.  Perhaps not wise, perhaps not morally righht even, but certainly NOT illegal  Again, you are clearly not knowledgeable of how military orders are cut.





Not only is he ignorant of The  military, he has actually at times express not giving a fook about soldiers but views them as brainwashed robots and socially useless. I have to respond to you because I no longer answer or address him directly as explained in my signature

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 01, 2012 - 10:13PM #2329
Mlyons619
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Apr 1, 2012 -- 10:03PM, fodaoson wrote:

Mar 19, 2012 -- 8:14PM, Mlyons619 wrote:


No.  I've read what Bales' wife posted.  However it is understood by experienced soldiers that the needs of the service outweigh the preferences of the individuals, so NO "illegalities" were committed in sending SSGT Bales back into a combat zone.  Perhaps not wise, perhaps not morally righht even, but certainly NOT illegal  Again, you are clearly not knowledgeable of how military orders are cut.





Not only is he ignorant of The  military, he has actually at times express not giving a fook about soldiers but views them as brainwashed robots and socially useless. I have to respond to you because I no longer answer or address him directly as explained in my signature


Not gonna disagree with you fod.

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1 year ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 2:40AM #2330
Mlyons619
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And the beat goes on…



Suicide bomber kills 9 in Afghanistan


...A suicide bomber in a four-wheel-drive vehicle blew up his cache of explosives on Tuesday morning in Herat province in western Afghanistan, killing nine people and wounding 21...


...The attacker struck as people were gathered outside a district headquarters building....


"...When a suicide bomber tried to enter the district headquarters, he was stopped by the police but then he detonated his explosives — right at the gate...The explosion was so strong — there are casualties among police and civilians..."


...{N}ine people were killed — three Afghan police and six civilians. Another 21 people were wounded, most of them civilians...




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