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5 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 4:48AM #1
renaka
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Many muslims view Barack Obama as a muslim or ex-muslim (apostate).  Does this bother anyone?

Daniel Pipes has written a few articles about this situation.  Here is the latest article:


http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5845

"How do Muslims see Barack Hussein Obama? They have three choices: either as he presents himself – someone who has "never been a Muslim" and has "always been a Christian"; or as a fellow Muslim; or as an apostate from Islam.

Reports suggests that while Americans generally view the Democratic candidate having had no religion before converting at Reverend Jeremiah Wrights's hands at age 27, Muslims the world over rarely see him as Christian but usually as either Muslim or ex-Muslim."
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 7:42AM #2
Don't_Be_Captious
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It's common knowledge that Obama was the one who urged Osama bin Laden to issue the fatwa against America & plan the 9/11 attacks.  Obama is a Wahabbist extremist with bombs under his clothes.  He's going to launch nuclear strikes on America and kill 200 million Americans the day he gets in the Oval Office and has access to the nuclear trigger.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 7:46AM #3
Don't_Be_Captious
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Less facetiously, imo Obama really is awfully thoughtful; once he has time to think on a position he reaches pretty sensible conclusions about it.  He seems to view the Mideast/Israel-Palestine thing pretty moderately & sensibly, completely rejecting idiot Islamic calls for Israel's destruction etc.  His projecting this a few months ago seemed to put off some of the more radical idiot Muslims awhile back.  Anti-Israel Mideasteners seemed disappointed that Obama actually thought Israel had a right to protect itself & survive.  So, they may think he's a wolf in sheep's clothing for their side, but they're wrong.  Many of them will probably go crazy again when he proves to be a moderate about the Mideast and doesn't allow them to destroy Israel the day he gets into office.  Screw those nutjobs.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 7:50AM #4
JohnQ
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[QUOTE=renaka;726065]Many muslims view Barack Obama as a muslim or ex-muslim (apostate).  Does this bother anyone?

Daniel Pipes has written a few articles about this situation.  Here is the latest article:


http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5845

"How do Muslims see Barack Hussein Obama? They have three choices: either as he presents himself – someone who has "never been a Muslim" and has "always been a Christian"; or as a fellow Muslim; or as an apostate from Islam.

Reports suggests that while Americans generally view the Democratic candidate having had no religion before converting at Reverend Jeremiah Wrights's hands at age 27, Muslims the world over rarely see him as Christian but usually as either Muslim or ex-Muslim."[/QUOTE]

Yes, it bothers many people who are looking for reasons to be against him......and/or cause others to be against him.  Does not bother me one bit.  In fact, if he were Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, Shinto, or atheist.....it would not bother me.

I am concerned whether or not a pres candidate is capable or not of being a great leader......I am not concerned what religion a candidate is or is not.
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Christian LIES wed Christian HATE......Begot a child....it’s named Prop 8! 

Supreme Court let it stand.....which means we can vote away the rights of others in our land.

Sad as that may be...it hurts all of us.....not just me.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 9:16AM #5
kannbrown65
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You know, I always make my electoral choices based on what Al Qaeda wants me to pick.

If Al Qaeda and Muslim terrorists don't like 'em', then I gotta change my vote.

Sheesh.. you'd think that Muslim extremists not liking him would be a plus, not a minus.

You think they're doing the happy dance over the guy who's going to hunt them to the 'gates of hell' (though not Pakistan.. but I get that. After all, Pakistan is actually possible..)? 

BTW, the standards by which they call Obama an 'apostate'?

By that standard, all non-Muslims are apostates. You do realize that Islam states that ALL humans are 'born Muslim'. That's why they call it 'reverting' when you change from being something else to being a Muslim.

By Muslim law, every non-Muslim is an apostate. But last I checked, people don't define themselves by the laws of religions they don't follow.

So, go ahead. Show the 'terrorists' that you listen to what they say, and do what they tell ya, and their opinion is SO important, that we will change who our president is based on it.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 9:25AM #6
JohnQ
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[QUOTE=kannbrown65;726218]You know, I always make my electoral choices based on what Al Qaeda wants me to pick.

If Al Qaeda and Muslim terrorists don't like 'em', then I gotta change my vote.

Sheesh.. you'd think that Muslim extremists not liking him would be a plus, not a minus.

You think they're doing the happy dance over the guy who's going to hunt them to the 'gates of hell' (though not Pakistan.. but I get that. After all, Pakistan is actually possible..)? 

BTW, the standards by which they call Obama an 'apostate'?

By that standard, all non-Muslims are apostates. You do realize that Islam states that ALL humans are 'born Muslim'. That's why they call it 'reverting' when you change from being something else to being a Muslim.

By Muslim law, every non-Muslim is an apostate. But last I checked, people don't define themselves by the laws of religions they don't follow.

So, go ahead. Show the 'terrorists' that you listen to what they say, and do what they tell ya, and their opinion is SO important, that we will change who our president is based on it.[/QUOTE]


As usual, I am with ya!
Peace!                 
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Christian LIES wed Christian HATE......Begot a child....it’s named Prop 8! 

Supreme Court let it stand.....which means we can vote away the rights of others in our land.

Sad as that may be...it hurts all of us.....not just me.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 9:36AM #7
Whisperingal
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"Many muslims view Barack Obama as a muslim or ex-muslim (apostate). Does this bother anyone"








Since

1) It isn't true

and

2)It's being used as a way to NOT talk about real issues

and

3) It's being used as a way to NOT talk about but to reference RACE


Yes it does "bother me."
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 10:08AM #8
noseington
Posts: 1,305
Will you Karl Rove fans  please knock off this Muslim bullshit. There is no evidence that Obama is either a Muslim or Muslim supporter.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 10:38AM #9
WaterBird
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I do believe that Obama is a Muslim sympathiser who has anti-Semitic leanings. I was considering voting for him until

1) I found out more about his church and his spiritual mentor

2) I found out just how far to the left he is.


I don't trust him on foreign policy, nor on domestic issues such as healthcare reform. I also think he has unresolved racial angst  that disturbs me.

So, I'll be voting for McCain, first time I've ever voted for a Republican candidate for president.
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5 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 10:45AM #10
Whisperingal
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" do believe that Obama is a Muslim sympathiser who has anti-Semitic leanings. I was considering voting for him until

1) I found out more about his church and his spiritual mentor

2) I found out just how far to the left he is."








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