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| 5 years ago :: Aug 18, 2008 - 4:18PM #1 | |
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[QUOTE=Armwar;698296]Ha ha, one outcome is that the Ukrain wants a missile shield from the US...
Gail[/QUOTE] By the way, Gail; I find it interesting that Ukraine leases the fleet of Black Sea Warships to Russia. Ukraine issued a statement to Russia during the crises in Georgia, stating the limits for useage of the fleet involving Georgia. In addition, Ukraine's president showed up with 5 other leaders in Tbilisi to politically support Georgia (as you already know). |
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| 5 years ago :: Aug 09, 2008 - 4:48PM #2 | |
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen … 488503.ece
I say we lay down and let Europe and the Baltic states take care of themselves. We will be out of the middle east soon (in a significant way), why do we care that Russia's Putin brings back the Soviet Union?
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| 5 years ago :: Aug 09, 2008 - 5:27PM #3 | |
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Well, Mr McCain wants to work with Russia on nuclear disarmament, but strangely, wants to kick them out of the G-8. Republicans practice strange foreign policy.
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| 5 years ago :: Aug 09, 2008 - 5:29PM #4 | |
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[QUOTE=mecdukebec;679905]Well, Mr McCain wants to work with Russia on nuclear disarmament, but strangely, wants to kick them out of the G-8. Republicans practice strange foreign policy.[/QUOTE]
This has been coming for a while. Our foreign policy as it regards Russia is going to change fairly dramatically I think. But at least obama will sit down and talk to Putin. That will settle everything.
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| 5 years ago :: Aug 09, 2008 - 5:33PM #5 | |
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Russia is a power. That's a fact, flush with oil money. The Current Occupant looked into his eyes, saw his soul, just before Little Hitler Putin crushed the press. Republican foreign policy, as I pointed out, is just hopelessly lost: I mean, it's not like the Current Occupant's Administration would ever talk to N. Korea or Iran.
After all, by its own terms (per the address to the Knesset) that's 'appeasement."
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| 5 years ago :: Aug 09, 2008 - 5:39PM #6 | |
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The fate of Georgia was doomed when Saakashvili kissed Dubya's ass...
It is obvious that the Stalin-drawn borderlines do not reflect reality. Stalin, a.k.a. Iosef Dzhagashvili, was from Georgia, in case you did not know. He made his personal Soviet Republic a bit larger than was warranted... Do you want to deny South Ossetians self-governance, Tenac? Do you want to erect a wall between South and North Ossetia? I had to laugh at this quote from your article: "Georgia is not perfect, but it is not a dictatorship. Its leadership does not peddle a phoney ideology..." LOL!! US style "freedom" would be "no phoney ideology"? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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| 5 years ago :: Aug 09, 2008 - 5:43PM #7 | |
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[QUOTE=CharikIeia;679932]The fate of Georgia was doomed when Saakashvili kissed Dubya's ass...
It is obvious that the Stalin-drawn borderlines do not reflect reality. Stalin, a.k.a. Iosef Dzhagashvili, was from Georgia, in case you did not know. He made his personal Soviet Republic a bit larger than was warranted... Do you want to deny South Ossetians self-governance, Tenac? Do you want to erect a wall between South and North Ossetia? I had to laugh at this quote from your article: "Georgia is not perfect, but it is not a dictatorship. Its leadership does not peddle a phoney ideology..." LOL!! US style "freedom" would be "no phoney ideology"? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha![/QUOTE] I dont know enough of the history or the catalyst for the current situation. I only wanted to generate discssuion.
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| 5 years ago :: Aug 09, 2008 - 6:09PM #8 | |
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I am sorry for coming across "as usual", Tenac.
This war is really a bad awakening, yes. In the EU, we -- as usual -- thought it would be sufficient to soothe with words and a lot of money. Apparently, too many parties are interested in fighting out the conflict. I had hoped better from a democratically re-elected president Saakashvili, I must admit. But as I said, I think he was on a wrong track ever since he got intimate with Bush. Who wants Georgia, like Ukraine, in NATO a.s.a.p. At the recent NATO summit in (I think) Romania, Europeans blocked that idea, in a sense of Realpolitik. Today's Russia is not the Soviet Union, and deserves more trust than a Brezhnev did. It was Bush's buddy Angela Merkel who made that most clear, out of all European leaders...
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| 5 years ago :: Aug 09, 2008 - 10:21PM #9 | |
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I heard the Georgian leader plea for help from the international community. Reminded me of Lebabnon's president plea for help from the international community 2 years ago this month.
I wonder if Condi will say Russia deserves another 2 or 3 weeks of bombing civilians in order to birth a "new" nation like she did 2 years ago. |
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| 5 years ago :: Aug 09, 2008 - 6:09PM #10 | |
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I am sorry for coming across "as usual", Tenac.
This war is really a bad awakening, yes. In the EU, we -- as usual -- thought it would be sufficient to soothe with words and a lot of money. Apparently, too many parties are interested in fighting out the conflict. I had hoped better from a democratically re-elected president Saakashvili, I must admit. But as I said, I think he was on a wrong track ever since he got intimate with Bush. Who wants Georgia, like Ukraine, in NATO a.s.a.p. At the recent NATO summit in (I think) Romania, Europeans blocked that idea, in a sense of Realpolitik. Today's Russia is not the Soviet Union, and deserves more trust than a Brezhnev did. It was Bush's buddy Angela Merkel who made that most clear, out of all European leaders...
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