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12 months ago  ::  Jun 23, 2012 - 2:36PM #771
NjoyAADAirbrush
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WARNING: BE ADVISED, BIBLICAL EXPOSURE, SPIRITUAL NUDITY!


FOR SPIRITUALLY MATURE AUDIENCES!


Interpreter, Hitler was only a human, mere mortal man, that killed himself, his remains are somewhere, perhaps Russia, as rumours tell.


Antichrist is not human....he is "man like," as even the angels are, for example:Gabriel, means "Man of God," and he is an Archangel!


Satan is the only one set to play the role of Antichrist, and will cause the world to worship him, because he acts and looks like Jesus, bringing in peace and prosperity to the world, with signs and supernatural powers, in the sight of all men and women, who will in turn, eat it up "hook line and sinker"! This is yet future, as we are watching the actions of the "First Beast" it is stealing the people blind, so that all will bend to it's will. When it receives a "deadly wound", be prepared, for the Woes: woe, woe, woe to the inhabiters of the earth! Because Antichrist soon follows to heal it.


Now, as we return to the seven last plagues, and as they will be poured out....


Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the Temple saying to the seven angels, "Go your ways and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth."


Time element concerns when Antichrist is here and has been reigning. There was given a 7 year duration, and in the middle of that time (3 1/2 years) Antichrist would take rule; but this is no longer the case, for God had to shorten the time, or else even God's very Elect would be deceived. Satan is no dummy! The time element from Revelation 9:5 is a 5 month period!


16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievious sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.


Sore=ulcer


Which worshipped=those worshipping, the beast, Antichrist and his system.


16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.


Living soul=soul of life, literally.


Soul=creature.


16:4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of wates; and they became as blood.


Remember the plagues of Egypt during the Exodus!


16:5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, "Thou art righteous, O Lord, Which art, and wast, and shalt be, because Thou hast judged thus.


And shalt be="Thou Holy One" judged.


16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and Thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.


The saints have been murdered from the beginning, as well as, the prophets, how many saints deemed by man have been murdered? Are they actual saints? God tells us different, many of the Apostles died tragic deaths, and most of all, the Lord and Saviour Jesus. Satan's own is the generations since the beginning behind it! They will get their just reward!


16:7 And I heard another out of the altar say, "Even so LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, true and righteous are Thy judgments."


Another out of, texts omit. Supply ellipsis with angel of the waters verse 5.


"LORD GOD ALMIGHTY" full title, marking His judgments as true and righteous, God's wrath is warranted for the enemy and comes to pass.


16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and the power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.


16:7 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, Which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give Him glory.


Common sense tells us, the key thing to protection during this time: is if you love God and give Him the glory, God has the power over the plagues; therefore God will protect or sheild those that call on His name from these plagues. We have nothing to fear, for if God is with us, who can be against us? Answer: No one or thing!


Solar flares have been in the news quite a bit, just something to think about.


Will continue, as the Revelation / Apocalypse is revealed, of the LORD Jesus Christ and His return.


In Christ,


Nancy


 


 


 


 


 

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 23, 2012 - 3:02PM #772
BillWitt
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Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

Antichrist is not human....he is "man like," as even the angels are, for example:Gabriel, means "Man of God," and he is an Archangel!


The Antichrist, Satan, angels, and Gabriel are only factious beings that exist in ancient stories of myth, like in your Bible.  The don't, and never have existed.  Why even talk about them??  They only exist in your imagination.  Aren't you mature enough to understand this?? 

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived." - -Isaac Asimov
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 23, 2012 - 3:45PM #773
BillWitt
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Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:33PM, Tpaine wrote:


Bill,


What I find amusing is that both TheInterpreter and Nancy insist that Revelation is the inerrant "Word of God," but almost totally disagree on its interpretation.


Yeah, it is amusing.  If God wrote Revelations, he must have been a psychopath.  I have no idea of why Nancy and Theinterperter would want to worship a psychopathic serial mass murderer. 

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 23, 2012 - 3:49PM #774
Ken
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Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:


Satan is the only one set to play the role of Antichrist, and will cause the world to worship him, because he acts and looks like Jesus, bringing in peace and prosperity to the world, with signs and supernatural powers, in the sight of all men and women, who will in turn, eat it up "hook line and sinker"! 


You still haven't explained to anyone's satisfaction why the world will worship him because he looks and acts like Jesus when most of the world isn't Christian and doesn't give a damn whether somebody looks and acts like Jesus or not.


By the way, nobody has the faintest idea of what Jesus looked like, so not even Christians will worship him based on his appearance.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 23, 2012 - 4:12PM #775
theinterpreter
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Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:


WARNING: BE ADVISED, BIBLICAL EXPOSURE, SPIRITUAL NUDITY!


FOR SPIRITUALLY MATURE AUDIENCES!


Interpreter, Hitler was only a human, mere mortal man, that killed himself, his remains are somewhere, perhaps Russia, as rumours tell.


Antichrist is not human....he is "man like," as even the angels are, for example:Gabriel, means "Man of God," and he is an Archangel!


Satan is the only one set to play the role of Antichrist, and will cause the world to worship him, because he acts and looks like Jesus, bringing in peace and prosperity to the world, with signs and supernatural powers, in the sight of all men and women, who will in turn, eat it up "hook line and sinker"! This is yet future, as we are watching the actions of the "First Beast" it is stealing the people blind, so that all will bend to it's will. When it receives a "deadly wound", be prepared, for the Woes: woe, woe, woe to the inhabiters of the earth! Because Antichrist soon follows to heal it.


Now, as we return to the seven last plagues, and as they will be poured out....


Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the Temple saying to the seven angels, "Go your ways and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth."


Time element concerns when Antichrist is here and has been reigning. There was given a 7 year duration, and in the middle of that time (3 1/2 years) Antichrist would take rule; but this is no longer the case, for God had to shorten the time, or else even God's very Elect would be deceived. Satan is no dummy! The time element from Revelation 9:5 is a 5 month period!


16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievious sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.


Sore=ulcer


Which worshipped=those worshipping, the beast, Antichrist and his system.


16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.


Living soul=soul of life, literally.


Soul=creature.


16:4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of wates; and they became as blood.


Remember the plagues of Egypt during the Exodus!


16:5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, "Thou art righteous, O Lord, Which art, and wast, and shalt be, because Thou hast judged thus.


And shalt be="Thou Holy One" judged.


16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and Thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.


The saints have been murdered from the beginning, as well as, the prophets, how many saints deemed by man have been murdered? Are they actual saints? God tells us different, many of the Apostles died tragic deaths, and most of all, the Lord and Saviour Jesus. Satan's own is the generations since the beginning behind it! They will get their just reward!


16:7 And I heard another out of the altar say, "Even so LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, true and righteous are Thy judgments."


Another out of, texts omit. Supply ellipsis with angel of the waters verse 5.


"LORD GOD ALMIGHTY" full title, marking His judgments as true and righteous, God's wrath is warranted for the enemy and comes to pass.


16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and the power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.


16:7 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, Which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give Him glory.


Common sense tells us, the key thing to protection during this time: is if you love God and give Him the glory, God has the power over the plagues; therefore God will protect or sheild those that call on His name from these plagues. We have nothing to fear, for if God is with us, who can be against us? Answer: No one or thing!


Solar flares have been in the news quite a bit, just something to think about.


Will continue, as the Revelation / Apocalypse is revealed, of the LORD Jesus Christ and His return.


In Christ,


Nancy


 


 


 


 


 



The Revelation says the antichrist is a man, (See Rev. 13:18)


The Revelation unfolds over many centuries and cannot possibled all take place in 7 years in the future. 


The first plague is skin cancer, which has been poured out on Aryans which is the image Hitler and his followers worshipped. It is especially poured out on those who worship the suntanned Aryan look.


The 2nd plague is red tides. Scientists say that due to red tides and overfishing, all the fish in the seas will be dead by 2048.


The 3rd plague is poluted frwsh water.


The 4th plague is global warming. Christians are not protected from it.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 23, 2012 - 4:18PM #776
theinterpreter
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Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:33PM, Tpaine wrote:


Bill,


What I find amusing is that both TheInterpreter and Nancy insist that Revelation is the inerrant "Word of God," but almost totally disagree on its interpretation. God should have written it with less apocalyptic symbolism and more clarity. Then again, if John of Patmos wrote it himself he would have known the people at the end of the first century, for whom he write it, would understand what what his symbols were meant to represent.



All interpretations of the Revelation fall in two classes, historicist and futurist. I am a historicist and Nancy is a futurist. That is why we do not agree on anything.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 23, 2012 - 4:27PM #777
Ken
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Jun 23, 2012 -- 4:18PM, theinterpreter wrote:


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:33PM, Tpaine wrote:


Bill,


What I find amusing is that both TheInterpreter and Nancy insist that Revelation is the inerrant "Word of God," but almost totally disagree on its interpretation. God should have written it with less apocalyptic symbolism and more clarity. Then again, if John of Patmos wrote it himself he would have known the people at the end of the first century, for whom he write it, would understand what what his symbols were meant to represent.



All interpretations of the Revelation fall in two classes, historicist and futurist. I am a historicist and Nancy is a futurist. That is why we do not agree on anything.



We don't care. We want the exact citation from Mein Kampf.


Now.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 23, 2012 - 4:43PM #778
Namchuck
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Jun 23, 2012 -- 4:18PM, theinterpreter wrote:


All interpretations of the Revelation fall in two classes, historicist and futurist. I am a historicist and Nancy is a futurist. That is why we do not agree on anything.


Almost every one of your posts sustains the observation that you are an exceptionally bad historicist.


And did you mean to say that Nancy was a 'fantasist'? 

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 23, 2012 - 5:57PM #779
Tpaine
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Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:


WARNING: BE ADVISED, BIBLICAL EXPOSURE, SPIRITUAL NUDITY!


FOR SPIRITUALLY MATURE AUDIENCES!


Interpreter, Hitler was only a human, mere mortal man, that killed himself, his remains are somewhere, perhaps Russia, as rumours tell.


Antichrist is not human....he is "man like," as even the angels are, for example:Gabriel, means "Man of God," and he is an Archangel!


Satan is the only one set to play the role of Antichrist, and will cause the world to worship him, because he acts and looks like Jesus, bringing in peace and prosperity to the world, with signs and supernatural powers, in the sight of all men and women, who will in turn, eat it up "hook line and sinker"! This is yet future, as we are watching the actions of the "First Beast" it is stealing the people blind, so that all will bend to it's will. When it receives a "deadly wound", be prepared, for the Woes: woe, woe, woe to the inhabiters of the earth! Because Antichrist soon follows to heal it.



I love it when two "TRUE BELIEVERS" can't agree on what their "holy book" means. Since neither of you ever got to meet John of Patmos and ask him to tell you what he meant all you can do is either guess on your own or accept the interpretation of others who also never met him.


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

Now, as we return to the seven last plagues, and as they will be poured out....


Revelation 16:1 And I heard a great voice out of the Temple saying to the seven angels, "Go your ways and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth."


Time element concerns when Antichrist is here and has been reigning. There was given a 7 year duration, and in the middle of that time (3 1/2 years) Antichrist would take rule; but this is no longer the case, for God had to shorten the time, or else even God's very Elect would be deceived. Satan is no dummy! The time element from Revelation 9:5 is a 5 month period!



Was it Arnold who figured that out? If so it shows he hasn't the foggiest notion what John was writing.


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievious sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.



And Arnold and his Christian Identity sponsors would be at the top of that list.


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

Sore=ulcer


Which worshipped=those worshipping, the beast, Antichrist and his system.



Most people who have gotten through grammar school know that.


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.


Living soul=soul of life, literally.


Soul=creature.



Most people who have gotten through grammar school know what soul means, too.

soul -- noun
1. the principle of life, feeling, thought, and action in humans, regarded as a distinct entity separate from the body, and commonly held to be separable in existence from the body; the spiritual part of humans as distinct from the physical part.
2. the spiritual part of humans regarded in its moral aspect, or as believed to survive death and be subject to happiness or misery in a life to come: arguing the immortality of the soul.
3. the disembodied spirit of a deceased person: He feared the soul of the deceased would haunt him.
4. the emotional part of human nature; the seat of the feelings or sentiments.
5. a human being; person.
Dictionary.com Unabridged
Based on the Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2012.



Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

16:4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of wates; and they became as blood.


Remember the plagues of Egypt during the Exodus!



Most professional archaeologists and Egyptologists believe there was no massive exodus from Egypt. The plagues that have been mentioned in ancient Egyptian records seem to date to the eruption of the volcano Thera (now known as Santorini) between 1627–1600 BCE.


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

16:5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, "Thou art righteous, O Lord, Which art, and wast, and shalt be, because Thou hast judged thus.


And shalt be="Thou Holy One" judged.



Or what is, what was, and what will be.


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and Thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.


The saints have been murdered from the beginning, as well as, the prophets, how many saints deemed by man have been murdered? Are they actual saints? God tells us different, many of the Apostles died tragic deaths, and most of all, the Lord and Saviour Jesus. Satan's own is the generations since the beginning behind it! They will get their just reward!



If God is going to punish murderers, a lot of Christians will be on that list. There were thousands of people murdered during the various Inquisitions and Crusades. Jesus was a man who preached the philosophy of Hillel the Elder and was executed by Rome because they feared he could become the leader of a rebellion in Judea. While the crucification was unjustified, it was standard Roman practice at the time.


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

16:7 And I heard another out of the altar say, "Even so LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, true and righteous are Thy judgments."


Another out of, texts omit. Supply ellipsis with angel of the waters verse 5.


"LORD GOD ALMIGHTY" full title, marking His judgments as true and righteous, God's wrath is warranted for the enemy and comes to pass.



That is a view held by a small minority of Christians. Most Christians, and non-Christians don't believe in a wrathful God(s) or Goddess(es). Atheists don't believe in any, wrathful or not. Yet that small minority uses this forum to preach their message of coming doom and gloom for all those they can't convert.


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and the power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.


16:7 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, Which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give Him glory.


Common sense tells us, the key thing to protection during this time: is if you love God and give Him the glory, God has the power over the plagues; therefore God will protect or sheild those that call on His name from these plagues. We have nothing to fear, for if God is with us, who can be against us? Answer: No one or thing!



This is blatant proselytizing (aka. an attempt to convert people to your beliefs). Unfortunately for you the people who post here are intelligent adults (for the most part) and aren't afraid of your bogyman stories.


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

Solar flares have been in the news quite a bit, just something to think about.



Solar flares are nothing new. They have happened periodically for billions of years. The largest one ever observed was on September 1, 1859. Link


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:36PM, NjoyAADAirbrush wrote:

Will continue, as the Revelation / Apocalypse is revealed, of the LORD Jesus Christ and His return.



I wish those in the Christian Taliban who talk so much about the "LORD Jesus Christ" would take the time to learn the benevolent message he preached rather than emphasizing the negative.

"When it shall be said in any country in the world, my poor are happy; neither ignorance nor distress is to be found among them; my jails are empty of prisoners, my streets of beggars; the aged are not in want, the taxes are not oppressive; the rational world is my friend, because I am a friend of its happiness: When these things can be said, then may the country boast its constitution and its government." -- Thomas Paine: The Rights Of Man (1791)
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 23, 2012 - 6:16PM #780
Tpaine
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Jun 23, 2012 -- 4:18PM, theinterpreter wrote:


Jun 23, 2012 -- 2:33PM, Tpaine wrote:


Bill,


What I find amusing is that both TheInterpreter and Nancy insist that Revelation is the inerrant "Word of God," but almost totally disagree on its interpretation. God should have written it with less apocalyptic symbolism and more clarity. Then again, if John of Patmos wrote it himself he would have known the people at the end of the first century, for whom he write it, would understand what what his symbols were meant to represent.



All interpretations of the Revelation fall in two classes, historicist and futurist. I am a historicist and Nancy is a futurist. That is why we do not agree on anything.



"It has been the practice of all Christian commentators on the Bible, and of all Christian priests and preachers, to impose the Bible on the world as a mass of truth, and as the word of God; they have disputed and wrangled, and have anathematized each other about the supposable meaning of particular parts and passages therein; one has said and insisted that such a passage meant such a thing, another that it meant directly the contrary, and a third, that it meant neither one nor the other, but something different from both; and this they have called understanding the Bible." -- Thomas Paine: Age of Reason, Part II, Chapter I (1795)

"When it shall be said in any country in the world, my poor are happy; neither ignorance nor distress is to be found among them; my jails are empty of prisoners, my streets of beggars; the aged are not in want, the taxes are not oppressive; the rational world is my friend, because I am a friend of its happiness: When these things can be said, then may the country boast its constitution and its government." -- Thomas Paine: The Rights Of Man (1791)
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