Human credulity, it knows no bounds.

I predict that in six months time, Madhorseman will have swallowed another silly excuse issued by the nut Camping. 

May 26, 2011 -- 7:29AM, Sacrificialgoddess wrote:

He's a huckster, Mad.  A lot of people lost everything because of him and he won't even admit wrong.  Anyone who won't admit they are wrong now and again isn't morally strong enough to be a good leader, and this guy has the morals of pond scum.

 

I really wish you would think for yourself, rather than swallowing everything he spits out, hook, line, and sinker.

Well, if you read what I written you may understand what happened on May 21. Judgment day has began and the door of salvation is closed. Today, there is virtually no hope for salvation.

The Bible is a spiritual book and it is focused on the salvation we have in Christ. However, all this came to an end on May 21 2011.

Yes, there were some errors in that most of us were expecting some literal physical event to take place as earthquakes and etc but it was all spiritual. We were reading it in earthly maters.

For an example,

Mat 24:27 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

We were reading it in a literal physical context but spiritually it says, immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened (End of Salvation) and the moon shall not give her light (The moon which signifies the word of God shall not give light) And stars shall fall from heaven are speaking of the true believers that fell. And unfortunately, most true believers themselves don’t know exactly what happened and its very complicated.

And it says there will be an earthquake but its spiritual.

Rev 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

Spiritually, 7000 that were slain is speaking of the true believers. Same as the stars falling from heaven is speaking of the true believers. When May 21 did not come physically we fell and we were slain. However, after 3 days and half they will stand on their feet.

So yes you can say we made an error by looking at things too literally but that doesn’t change the fact Judgment day has began.

Mad, he said there would be earthquakes.  Not metaphorical earthquakes, not spiritual earthquakes, real earthquakes.  He said people were going to die.  He said that the faithful would ascend.  None of this happened.  He is changing his story.  That alone makes me suspicious that he is pulling all of this out of his ass.  I have nothing against you believing the bible or reading the bible. I just think you need to get your own lens to read it though, rather than borrowing the lens of a man who has made it clear he doesn't give a rat's  ass about you or anyone else who is buying what he is selling.

May 26, 2011 -- 9:37AM, Heretic_for_Christ wrote:

A textbook example of how some people are forever separated from reality, lost in their own worlds of obsessive religious fanaticism. It is pitiable, but it is also an insult to the rationality that I believe is God's greatest gift to us.

Well, reality is salvation is over. Salvation ended in the churches back in 1988. They were the 144,000 signified in Rev 7 and then in 1994 God began to save the great multitude which no man can number out of this great tribulation out side of the churches. However, this too came to an end on May 21 2011.

And what is also true is God used this message regarding May 21 to save the great multitude which no man can number all over the world and they were sealed on midnight of May 21. And now the door is closed. And this is why it was so important that people needed to make their calling and election sure. Now its virtually too late. In other words, those who are not saved today are not going to become saved. Its done and over.

May 21 2011 is ZIF17 which time the door was closed to the Ark. We had 7000 years to get into the Ark but now the door is closed.  

May 26, 2011 -- 11:04AM, Whisper01 wrote:

When in doubt, re-interpret the bible verses. So you got it wrong for the last 4 years, no worries, just re-interpret the same tired verses you falsely interpreted before. So what if you flat out declared the "End from the Begining" and now have to throw all that away and bring in a whole new interpretation, just re-interpret it and move on. The past is meaningless, only the "New" and improved interpretation has any meaning, in fact lets not discuss the past anymore. Don't do what I told you to do, do what I tell you to do! So what if I told a pack of lies and attested them all to God, I'm still elect and you are not so it just doesn't matter because I have re-interpreted everything so it works the way I want it to. Besides, you are all gonna die horribly while I levitate into the clouds to be with Dad and the kids so what difference does your opinion make anyhow? Honestly, your just a bunch of walking talking fuel rods ready to burn, and burn hot you will! Besides (again) if you did not adhere and do what I told you to do before May 21st then you lost anyway, Salvation is Closed like it was between 1988 and 1994. If you did not do as Lord Camping told you to do then your of no value anyway. So let me sum up, I'm right regardless of my past wrongs and you are wrong because of your past wrongs. There, was that so hard? Suck it up and get ready to die horribly with your loved ones while I pack up my Sunday Finest for ascention protocal.

Go figure?

No, Whisper. Nothing has changed with the dates given. May 21 2011 is the beginning of judgment process which will continue for 5 months (Rev9) then on Oct 21 2011 this earth and solar system will be annihilated.

And logically, if you think about it. If the Sun was literally darkened we couldn’t survive 5 days let alone for 5 months.

And the other truth is none of us including you understood May 21 2011 to be in the spiritual context. And God knew from the beginning we wouldn’t. As the word of God will not return void he used this massage regarding May 21 to save the great multitude which no man can number and just as the door was closed to the Ark of Zif17 the door of salvation was closed on May 21 2011.

 People don't realize this but this is much worse then any physical earthquake.