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4 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2009 - 3:03AM #1
gilbert9992002
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 Dear Souls,


" God had made man in His own image. Hence it behooves man to be as perfect as the Father. This become possible only when a person learns to understand His will and work in accordance with It. This is the true religion ,and true faith, while all else is sham and tinsel."


Genesis 1:20-27 " The God said " Let us make man in our image in our own likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the bird in the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, etc." ( Are we suppose to eat the subjects who are under our rule?)


" For the majority of the people the superb teaching of the enlighten teachers (Master Saints) formed what may be called social religion, code of social and moral percepts so as to make people live in peace with one and another rather than in a state of perpetual unrest, and fear of war -war of one against all and all against one.


We see an amalgam of religion with social and moral trappings to make it presentable and acceptable to the generality of mankind. This is the aspect of religion that provide a firm basis to the social order of the race.


Perfect Masters who not only speak of the Power and Spirit of God but make it manifest in their initiates and consciously link individual soul with it. It must be said to their credit  ,that theirs is the true religion, truly religious etymologically and practically binding man back to the Creator.


The teachings of Masters do not form an institutional religions as it is ordinary understood to be. It is a regular species of science of the soul. Whosoever faithfully practice this science as enjoined by the Master, get the same experience and arrive at the same conclusion.


All religions are made for the benefit of man and man was never intended fro any religion. God made man and man made religion . Man is the author of all scriptures but the great mystery of life ,which the later describe , ever lies within the human breast.


The science of spirituality is definite and natural with sure results. It has been given many names throughout the past. All the past Masters gave the same finding as did Jesus Christ. It is a universal teachings in all the religions of the world and this is amply borne out by the sacred scriptures everywhere. The theory in whole or in part of course differs in various circle of faith. You may read all the books written by and about the Self-Realized people. But the right understanding of them will only enter the heart when they are explained by a Self-Realized person. Those who have seen (The Truth) have only one understanding. You will find that intellectuals have different understanding, because on the level of intellect naturally each will reason in his own way, so some say one thing and other say something else. All statements given by past Masters on the subject of Truth have been one and the same, of course, they used whatever different language and mode of expression that were suitable at that time, otherwise the facts are all the same.


Although it is written in every scripture that you cannot realize God through books, yet many people spend their whole lives searching among them. One should read and fully .understand.


True theism cannot be reasoned out intellectually or felt at the level of emotion, it proceeds from true knowledge which is an action of the soul in perfect harmony beyond the senses. This is what is called 'spirituality'; the contact of the soul with the Oversoul (or God) and is achieved by rising above body consciousness."Kirpal Singh Jiof Sant Mat


Fro more topic on Spirituality please read our psot "True Religion or Spirituality uner Inter Faith Forum.


With Love and Blessing fro mGod,


Gilbert


 



 

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2009 - 3:47AM #2
realmystic
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I was inspired today to write on this subject, also. I invite you to read my new journal post; I would be interested in your comments. The Meaning of Spirituality is not an easy subject to discuss because of the many misconceptions fostered by erroneous religious ideas, but your expressions on the subject here are very good. Thank you for inspiring words and thoughts.


The way you began your posting, I thought it was going to be about some sort of religious absolutism based on scripture, but as you continued, you made it clear that you have an understanding of the way spirituality actually works. I was fortunate to have learned from a Perfect Master, also. Many years of meditation have transformed me, and I have begun to experience life in a new way. As a yogi and mystic, I have come to know the meaning of spirituality from direct, personal experience, and by my yoga-meditation practice, each day my longing for knowledge of truth, joy, contentment, transcendence and liberation is answered immediately, in every breath.


NAMASTE, Peace and Blessings


Yogi da (realmystic)

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2009 - 10:31AM #3
williejhonlo
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Apr 10, 2009 -- 3:03AM, gilbert9992002 wrote:


 


 Dear Souls,


" God had made man in His own image. Hence it behooves man to be as perfect as the Father. This become possible only when a person learns to understand His will and work in accordance with It. This is the true religion ,and true faith, while all else is sham and tinsel."


Genesis 1:20-27 " The God said " Let us make man in our image in our own likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the bird in the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, etc." ( Are we suppose to eat the subjects who are under our rule?)


" For the majority of the people the superb teaching of the enlighten teachers (Master Saints) formed what may be called social religion, code of social and moral percepts so as to make people live in peace with one and another rather than in a state of perpetual unrest, and fear of war -war of one against all and all against one.


We see an amalgam of religion with social and moral trappings to make it presentable and acceptable to the generality of mankind. This is the aspect of religion that provide a firm basis to the social order of the race.


Perfect Masters who not only speak of the Power and Spirit of God but make it manifest in their initiates and consciously link individual soul with it. It must be said to their credit  ,that theirs is the true religion, truly religious etymologically and practically binding man back to the Creator.


The teachings of Masters do not form an institutional religions as it is ordinary understood to be. It is a regular species of science of the soul. Whosoever faithfully practice this science as enjoined by the Master, get the same experience and arrive at the same conclusion.


All religions are made for the benefit of man and man was never intended fro any religion. God made man and man made religion . Man is the author of all scriptures but the great mystery of life ,which the later describe , ever lies within the human breast.


The science of spirituality is definite and natural with sure results. It has been given many names throughout the past. All the past Masters gave the same finding as did Jesus Christ. It is a universal teachings in all the religions of the world and this is amply borne out by the sacred scriptures everywhere. The theory in whole or in part of course differs in various circle of faith. You may read all the books written by and about the Self-Realized people. But the right understanding of them will only enter the heart when they are explained by a Self-Realized person. Those who have seen (The Truth) have only one understanding. You will find that intellectuals have different understanding, because on the level of intellect naturally each will reason in his own way, so some say one thing and other say something else. All statements given by past Masters on the subject of Truth have been one and the same, of course, they used whatever different language and mode of expression that were suitable at that time, otherwise the facts are all the same.


Although it is written in every scripture that you cannot realize God through books, yet many people spend their whole lives searching among them. One should read and fully .understand.


True theism cannot be reasoned out intellectually or felt at the level of emotion, it proceeds from true knowledge which is an action of the soul in perfect harmony beyond the senses. This is what is called 'spirituality'; the contact of the soul with the Oversoul (or God) and is achieved by rising above body consciousness."Kirpal Singh Jiof Sant Mat


Fro more topic on Spirituality please read our psot "True Religion or Spirituality uner Inter Faith Forum.


With Love and Blessing fro mGod,


Gilbert


 



 



I think when you talk about spirituality it always is about developing a certain type of personality. Being pure, as it is said in the Isopanishad - A person who sees everything in relation to the supreme lord, and sees all living entities as his part and parcels, and who sees the supreme lord within everything, never hates anything, nor any being.  This to me is being spiritual.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2009 - 12:38PM #4
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Oy, vay


 


I am (unfortunately) not surprised to learn that Multi faith is still not very multi.


 


My gods are not your god, and spirituality comes from deepening my relationship with them not your nebulous "supreme lord".


 


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4 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2009 - 2:49PM #5
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Apr 10, 2009 -- 12:38PM, allthegoodnamesweretaken wrote:


Oy, vay


 


I am (unfortunately) not surprised to learn that Multi faith is still not very multi.


 


My gods are not your god, and spirituality comes from deepening my relationship with them not your nebulous "supreme lord".


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Supreme Lord is not nebulous, it's a Death Metal band from Poland. It's lyrics are "Blasphemy, Darkness, Chaos, Anti-christianity."


http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=16663



 


You can all bow down to Supreme Lord if you wish but I'm sticking with my Gods.

Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones. Marcus Aurelius
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4 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2009 - 4:10PM #6
allthegoodnamesweretaken
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Apr 10, 2009 -- 2:49PM, gillyflower wrote:


 


Supreme Lord is not nebulous, it's a Death Metal band from Poland. It's lyrics are "Blasphemy, Darkness, Chaos, Anti-christianity."


http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=16663


 


 


You can all bow down to Supreme Lord if you wish but I'm sticking with my Gods.




 


Yuck.  I'm not overly interested in them either. 


 


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4 years ago  ::  Apr 12, 2009 - 8:22PM #7
Ursyl
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Apr 10, 2009 -- 3:03AM, gilbert9992002 wrote:

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Although it is written in every scripture that you cannot realize God through books, yet many people spend their whole lives searching among them. One should read and fully .understand.


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If one cannot realize "God" through books, why should one read them?



Though the OP is welcome to his, freedom of religion being a wonderful thing, I'll stick to my own understandings.:)


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4 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2009 - 5:00PM #8
williejhonlo
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Apr 10, 2009 -- 12:38PM, allthegoodnamesweretaken wrote:


Oy, vay


 


I am (unfortunately) not surprised to learn that Multi faith is still not very multi.


 


My gods are not your god, and spirituality comes from deepening my relationship with them not your nebulous "supreme lord".


 


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Multifaith means just that, discussion on different faiths.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 16, 2009 - 5:33PM #9
williejhonlo
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Apr 12, 2009 -- 8:22PM, Ursyl wrote:


Apr 10, 2009 -- 3:03AM, gilbert9992002 wrote:

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Although it is written in every scripture that you cannot realize God through books, yet many people spend their whole lives searching among them. One should read and fully .understand.


...



If one cannot realize "God" through books, why should one read them?



Though the OP is welcome to his, freedom of religion being a wonderful thing, I'll stick to my own understandings.:)




You ask, "if one cannot realize "God" through books, why should one read them?" the answer to that is   by reading a book one cannot fully fathom the wisdom within it. One must live by its precepts to understand it. On the material platform if you live by the law you are considered a good citizen. On the spiritual platform if you live by the precepts within the book then you are considered a spiritual person.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 17, 2009 - 11:20AM #10
allthegoodnamesweretaken
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Jun 16, 2009 -- 5:00PM, williejhonlo wrote:


Multifaith means just that, discussion on different faiths.




 


It sure does, it even means faiths that do not have use for a "supreme lord"


 


Thank you, and good night.


 


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