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3 years ago  ::  Apr 19, 2010 - 9:05PM #1551
Eliascomes
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 Christians suppose to cast the word as bait into the world, and whom bite into it, reel them in. But don't worried about the other fishes, whatever fish that takes the bait, God is the one that put it on the hook.


 10Then he told me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, because the time is near. 11Let him who does wrong continue to do wrong; let him who is vile continue to be vile; let him who does right continue to do right; and let him who is holy continue to be holy."

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 19, 2010 - 9:43PM #1552
BillWitt
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Apr 19, 2010 -- 9:05PM, Eliascomes wrote:

Christians suppose to cast the word as bait into the world, and whom bite into it, reel them in. But don't worried about the other fishes, whatever fish that takes the bait, God is the one that put it on the hook.


Is the Word you are talking about, the ancient book of fictional mythology which is often called the Bible?  Yes, you will find a few fish to take the bait.  There are suckers in almost every pond, and the great Christian con-job has been developed into a fine-art of getting as many sucker on the hook as possible. 




"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived." - -Isaac Asimov
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2010 - 12:34PM #1553
allthegoodnamesweretaken
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Christianity says you have a problem, and offers to cure that problem. 


 


The thing is, you never had the problem in the first place. 


 


Your preying on the weak and susceptable, and it makes me sick. 


 


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3 years ago  ::  Apr 21, 2010 - 11:14PM #1554
LeahOne
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Dec 27, 2009 -- 7:54AM, Kriswest wrote:


All humans push their beliefs not just one set group





I certainly don't agree - my faith certainly doesn't.  Nor do any of the many faiths of which I'm aware, except for SOME Christians and SOME Muslims....


And 'everyone does it' is certainly not an excuse for wrong behavior.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 22, 2010 - 10:33AM #1555
allthegoodnamesweretaken
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Apr 21, 2010 -- 11:14PM, LeahOne wrote:


Dec 27, 2009 -- 7:54AM, Kriswest wrote:


All humans push their beliefs not just one set group





I certainly don't agree - my faith certainly doesn't.  Nor do any of the many faiths of which I'm aware, except for SOME Christians and SOME Muslims....


And 'everyone does it' is certainly not an excuse for wrong behavior.




 


I know that for some people who have been here a long time, my beliefs have come up in passing.  I wonder though, would the person who made this blanket statement even know what they are?


 


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3 years ago  ::  Jun 21, 2010 - 1:43PM #1556
soma77
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Christian churches seem to put God in people's hearts with fear. Christian mysticism puts those people's hearts in God with unity and love.  Yes, 60% of Christians project their fear with their religion so force their faith on others.

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 21, 2010 - 5:46PM #1557
Innerpoint
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Jun 21, 2010 -- 1:43PM, soma77 wrote:

Christian churches seem to put God in people's hearts with fear. Christian mysticism puts those people's hearts in God with unity and love.  Yes, 60% of Christians project their fear with their religion so force their faith on others.


Project??  >grins<  Is this like equating the tapping of a tack-hammer to the force of a pile-driver?

Sorry... I know what you mean... project just seemed to be such a non-coercive word for what some do.

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 22, 2010 - 11:01AM #1558
Bezant
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Jun 21, 2010 -- 1:43PM, soma77 wrote:


Christian churches seem to put God in people's hearts with fear. Christian mysticism puts those people's hearts in God with unity and love.  Yes, 60% of Christians project their fear with their religion so force their faith on others.




...and you were able to measure that, how?

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 22, 2010 - 11:08AM #1559
Bezant
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Jun 21, 2010 -- 5:46PM, Innerpoint wrote:


Jun 21, 2010 -- 1:43PM, soma77 wrote:

Christian churches seem to put God in people's hearts with fear. Christian mysticism puts those people's hearts in God with unity and love.  Yes, 60% of Christians project their fear with their religion so force their faith on others.



Project??  >grins<  Is this like equating the tapping of a tack-hammer to the force of a pile-driver?

Sorry... I know what you mean... project just seemed to be such a non-coercive word for what some do.





True. Some of these have insisted I need to accept Jesus in my life.

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 22, 2010 - 12:37PM #1560
Tpaine
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Some Christians do everything in their power to force their beliefs on others. All someone has to do is look at the social studies textbook controversy in Texas. The Texas Board of Education recently passed revisions to those texts that emphasise the "Christian Founding Fathers" who weren't all Christians, and eliminate Jefferson's Wall of Separation. In fact they almost eliminate Jefferson entirely, but replace him with Phyllis Schlafly. When the Board added David Barton as an adviser for their social studies curriculum you could see what was coming. Barton is best know for making up quotes and attributing them to the Founding Fathers. It's just another attempt to force Christianity into public schools.

Former board member Don McLeroy is a dentist and a self-avowed Christian fundamentalist who openly states how his religious values guide his crusade to adjust textbooks. Mr. McLeroy, the most influential conservative involved in the curriculum changes, is well known for his extreme statements dismissing evidence of evolution in debates about Darwinism last year. This year, he candidly discussed how he applies direct pressure to textbook companies in a New York Times article, “How Christian Were the Founders?”


www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/201...

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