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Switch to Forum Live View The impossibility of the YEC ice age
3 years ago  ::  Mar 07, 2015 - 2:50PM #1
McAtheist
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If the YEC anti-scientific model was correct, then all the ice ages that worked on the strata left by the flood had to occur after the flood.  Examination of the maximum of the sheets from the last ice age raises some serious difficulties for YECism:

1.  That maximum covered 32% of the earth to an average depth of around 1.5 km, meaning that (510,072,000 km2) * (1.5 km) * (.32) = 2.4 X 108 km3 of ice that had to form post-flood.

2.  Translating that volume of ice into liters yields  (2.4 x 108 km3) * (1000m/km) * 1000m/km) * (1000 m/km) * (1000L/m3) = 2.4 x 1020 liters of ice created.

3.  Freezing water releases heat energy 3.3 Kj for every liter of water frozen.  Creating the post-flood ice sheets, then, would release (2.4 x 1020 L) * 3.3kJ/L = 7.9 x 1020kJ = 7.9 x1023 J of heat energy;  that's 790,000,000,000,000,000,000,000  joules of energy.

Now, further consider that the formation and subsequent reduction of that ice sheet had to happen post-flood but before people were building things like Skara Brae in Scotland (which doesn't show any glacial marking), then the YEC ice age had to happen in just a few hundred years.

So, YECs: where did all the heat go and what evidence supports your claim?


And where did all the heat come from to melt the ice sheet to its current level?  What evidence supports that claim?

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 08, 2015 - 12:22AM #2
Roymond
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Mar 7, 2015 -- 2:50PM, McAtheist wrote:



1.  That maximum covered 32% of the earth to an average depth of around 1.5 km, meaning that (510,072,000 km2) * (1.5 km) * (.32) = 2.4 X 108 km3 of ice that had to form post-flood.

2.  Translating that volume of ice into liters yields  (2.4 x 108 km3) * (1000m/km) * 1000m/km) * (1000 m/km) * (1000L/m3) = 2.4 x 1020 liters of ice created.

3.  Freezing water releases heat energy 3.3 Kj for every liter of water frozen.  Creating the post-flood ice sheets, then, would release (2.4 x 1020 L) * 3.3kJ/L = 7.9 x 1020kJ = 7.9 x1023 J of heat energy;  that's 790,000,000,000,000,000,000,000  joules of energy.

Now, further consider that the formation and subsequent reduction of that ice sheet had to happen post-flood but before people were building things like Skara Brae in Scotland (which doesn't show any glacial marking), then the YEC ice age had to happen in just a few hundred years.

So, YECs: where did all the heat go and what evidence supports your claim?


And where did all the heat come from to melt the ice sheet to its current level?  What evidence supports that claim?




There are also ways to calculate how long an ice sheet acted on certain locations.  In every casse, it's not just decades, so we need that YEC ice sheet to form in under a decade.  That means those 7.9 x1023 J given up by the ice were released in under ten years.


Let's call it ten years:  that means 7.9 x 1022 J released per year over a decade.  That's 2.2 x 1020 J per day into the earth's atmosphere.  Except it isn't being released everywhere, it's being released along the front of the forming ice mass.


I'm going to skip the calculations here and guess that this is enough heat to flash forests into infernos along the advancing (galloping) line of ice.  So if the YEC ice age is correct, where are the remnants of the incinerated forests?

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3 years ago  ::  Mar 08, 2015 - 7:20PM #3
Blü
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So it got cold because they'd burnt all the wood?


That sounds YECish enough.


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3 years ago  ::  Mar 08, 2015 - 8:46PM #4
Roymond
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Mar 8, 2015 -- 7:20PM, Blü wrote:


So it got cold because they'd burnt all the wood?


That sounds YECish enough.





Wait -- what?


Who was burning wood???

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