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1 year ago  ::  May 11, 2012 - 9:15PM #81
independentDEM
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Fibonacci Sequence.... look it up
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1 year ago  ::  May 11, 2012 - 9:28PM #82
MMarcoe
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May 11, 2012 -- 9:15PM, independentDEM wrote:


Fibonacci Sequence.... look it up





Explanation, please?

There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth.

God is just a personification of reality, of pure objectivity.
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1 year ago  ::  May 12, 2012 - 3:23AM #83
Blü
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Jim


start specifying the basic rules of the universe which would result in an improved "product"?


What happens in reality is that the only test of a critter is to survive and breed, or perish by failing to.


To improve on this spontaneous, improvising, undignified and basic repertoire, the Designer needs to start by identifying what Product A is for - what's its purpose, what is it to do?  With that clearly identified, Product A can be designed and made very efficiently.


A related question also arises at the outset - whether biological products are the most efficient and reliable way to achieve Product A's purpose.  Mechanicals running on solar or atomic power, or long-lasting quantum computer parts may be a better answer.


In fact the simplest thing may be to get rid of the messy biology altogether.
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1 year ago  ::  May 12, 2012 - 5:14PM #84
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Apr 30, 2012 -- 10:41AM, ni-cherise wrote:


Apr 30, 2012 -- 10:04AM, Ken wrote:


Apr 29, 2012 -- 11:49PM, ni-cherise wrote:


Apr 29, 2012 -- 11:29PM, Ken wrote:

The universe does not sustain life. Most of it is totally inhospitable to life, and wherever life occurs the universe loses very little time in destroying it. If there were a designer, one would have to conclude that he hates life.



So the universe is not working well enough right now, to sustain the life that is on earth today?


Right.




 So the universe was designed to kill us,.....well thats it, the creator hates us.




The obvious word that leapt to mind was entropy.  Even the universe will die.

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If someone says, “Oh, I’m not a feminist,” I ask, “Why, what’s your problem?”

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