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3 years ago  ::  Apr 06, 2012 - 6:01PM #1
steven_guy
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In Queensland, Australia, in 2011 and in 2012 there has been extensive and disastrous flood the summers of both years.

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Yet neither of these floods has produced any fossils, which we would expect if what Creationists say was true. We can only conclude that floods don't produce fossils, it is something else that causes fossilisation.
 
 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2012 - 8:29AM #2
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ROFLOL....


Yeah, that represented Noahs flood. 

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2012 - 8:45AM #3
Blü
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Yeah, that represented Noahs flood.


When you've finished rolling on the floor, please be so kind as to bring us up to date with your Flood research.


Have you found that universal flood layer all over all continents dated to 2348 BCE yet?


How about a genetic bottleneck in every species of land animal, each bottleneck dating to 2348 BCE?


How about that 1.113 billion cubic miles of extra water over and above what's already on the earth?


Nothing?  Not even one of them?


Gee, that means there was no Genesis flood!  And didn't you tell us that if there's no Genesis flood, bang goes your salvation, right out the window?  Yes, you did.


Can't have that.  Better look even harder, ol' buddy.


And do keep us posted.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 07, 2012 - 10:03AM #4
Midutch
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Apr 7, 2012 -- 8:29AM, 57 wrote:


ROFLOL....


Yeah, that represented Noahs flood.

Apr 7, 2012 -- 8:29AM, 57 wrote:


ROFLOL....


Yeah, that represented Noahs flood.

So, do tell, how was Noah's flood different?


And what scientific research and empirical evidence do you have that demonstrates this difference?


What's that? I almost didn't hear you? You say you don't have any scientific research and empirical evidence ... but you do have this bronze age collection of myths, fables and fairy tales ... and that's about as scientific as you can get?


Really? Wow.

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"creationism" ... 2000+ years worth of ABYSMAL FAILURE ... and proud of it.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2012 - 6:57PM #5
Slipnish
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Apr 7, 2012 -- 8:29AM, 57 wrote:


ROFLOL....


Yeah, that represented Noahs flood. 




It's a much better representation than your "Jar of Mud"!  I'm sure your cheeks are still burning in shame over that one.  Oh wait.  You're a creationist.  They have no shame.  My bad.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2012 - 8:28PM #6
McAtheist
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57,


Adding to Blu's excellent points:


* How did your flood produce areas like the Haymond beds in SW Texas, where distinct sediment deposits were laid down, colonized by burrowing worms and lithified 6.5 times an hour or faster than every 10 minutes, in order to make your Bible timeline of the flood work ?


* The onset of the flood was violent and turbulent.  How did the flood manage to sort all the debris and bodies that were tumbled together in the initial phase into layers where no modern animal or artifact of same ever appears with dinosaur fossils and artifacts? 


* Why isn't there a single human artifact found with the sedimentary layers containing dinosaurs --- not a butchered bone, not a tool, not a pot, not a body that was buried pre-flood, not a single item to support your claim that humans and dinosaurs shared the Earth?


The YEC claim that Noah's flood was a historical world-wide event that happened in the last 6000 years has been thoroughly discredited and is nothing more than one of hundreds of creation myths; there is no more reason to teach this nonsense in public schools than there is to teach that disease and famine came out of a box opened by Pandora ala Greek mythology.


YECism fails.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2012 - 11:51PM #7
MMarcoe
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Apr 7, 2012 -- 8:29AM, 57 wrote:


ROFLOL....


Yeah, that represented Noahs flood. 




Why doesn't it represent Noah's flood? And how big would it have to be to represent Noah's flood?


Now's your chance to show us some real scientific thinking!

1. Extremists think that thinking means agreeing with them.
2. There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth.
3. God is just a personification of reality, of pure objectivity.
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3 years ago  ::  Apr 10, 2012 - 1:42PM #8
HouseofDavid
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Apr 7, 2012 -- 8:29AM, 57 wrote:

ROFLOL....


Yeah, that represented Noahs flood. 


Agreed, this is laughable.   A global flood compared to the inundation of a corner of Australia.  Hah.  A global flood a million times the scale; there's no comparison.  A flood so vast, devastating, and powerful that it can carve water gaps into mountain ridges and carve mile-deep canyons in less than a year.  So turbulent, so violent.   And those Aussies were fussing about their flood ?


In such global flood waters, in less than a year, how in the world did phyto- and zooplankton and other marine organisms thrive, and how did their exoskeletons manage to delicately settle out of suspension, and form multiple limestone formations hundreds of feet thick, without mixing with all of the other sediment churned up by God's angry waters ?  Not by any known biological or sedimentary processes known to real scientists.


Creationists, you may rebury your heads in sediment now.

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3 years ago  ::  Apr 13, 2012 - 2:12AM #9
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Apr 6, 2012 -- 6:01PM, steven_guy wrote:



steven_guy: In Queensland, Australia, in 2011 and in 2012 there has been extensive and disastrous flood the summers of both years.

i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq79/Sociali...

Yet neither of these floods has produced any fossils, which we would expect if what Creationists say was true. We can only conclude that floods don't produce fossils, it is something else that causes fossilisation.
 
 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil



iama:  I wonder what you think is required for the formation of a fossil?


Flood Explains 'Worldwide Pattern' in Ancient Rock


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3 years ago  ::  Apr 13, 2012 - 2:22AM #10
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Apr 6, 2012 -- 6:01PM, steven_guy wrote:



steven_guy: In Queensland, Australia, in 2011 and in 2012 there has been extensive and disastrous flood the summers of both years.

i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq79/Sociali...

Yet neither of these floods has produced any fossils, which we would expect if what Creationists say was true. We can only conclude that floods don't produce fossils, it is something else that causes fossilisation.
 
 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil



iama:  Fossilization is a rare occurrence!


Fossilization


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