Apr 13, 2012 -- 1:27AM, iamachildofhis wrote:

Apr 2, 2012 -- 9:47PM, lucaspa wrote:

Apr 2, 2012 -- 9:17PM, steven_guy wrote:

steven_guy: I know that Creationists, particularly the young earth variety, strongly believe that the mythical flood described in the Old Testament was actually a worldwide flood, even though there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest this.

iama: The Bible states that The Flood was worldwide!

Gen 6:17     
"And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein [is] the breath of life, from under heaven; [and] every thing that [is] in the earth shall die."

Gen 9:11     
"And I will establish My covenant with you; neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth."

Gen 9:15     
"And I will remember my covenant, which [is] between Me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh."

Mat 24:38     
"For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."

Luk 17:27     
"They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all."

2Pe 2:4-5
"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;"

lucaspa: First, you need to be careful about that "isn't a shred of evidence".  As Karl Popper pointed out, there is evidence for ANY and EVERY theory (no matter how wrong) if you look for that type of evidence.  What counts is the evidence against. What happened was that there is evidence (literally mountains of it) that can't be there if there was a world wide flood.  There are geological features that cannot possibly have been caused by a global flood.  So, yes, YECers are Flood Geologists, but Flood Geology is falsified.

iama:  I am interested in your claim: "there is evidence (literally mountains of it) that can't be there if there was a world wide flood."  Would you elaborate on that statement?

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There was no global flood. If there was, there would be evidence of it.

There is no more evidence of a global flood than there is for the existence of the Tooth Fairy, less in fact.

Apr 13, 2012 -- 1:38AM, iamachildofhis wrote:

Apr 10, 2012 -- 5:54PM, Ken wrote:

Anyone who claims there was a global flood isn't a real scientist. There isn't enough water on earth to flood the whole planet.

There is plenty of water to cover the whole Earth's land surface, IF there were no mountains and no ocean depths!

There have always been mountains and ocean depths. There has never been enough water on earth to flood the whole planet. Anyone who claims there was a global flood isn't a real scientist. Ken Ham, Jonathan Sarfati, and Carl Wieland are not scientists. They are evil evangelists.

Apr 13, 2012 -- 10:20AM, Ken wrote:

Apr 10, 2012 -- 5:54PM, Ken wrote:

Ken: Anyone who claims there was a global flood isn't a real scientist. There isn't enough water on earth to flood the whole planet.

iama: There is plenty of water to cover the whole Earth's land surface, IF there were no mountains and no ocean depths!

Ken:  There have always been mountains and ocean depths. There has never been enough water on earth to flood the whole planet. Anyone who claims there was a global flood isn't a real scientist. Ken Ham, Jonathan Sarfati, and Carl Wieland are not scientists. They are evil evangelists.

iama:  You are, certainly, in control of all circumstances this morning!  You make your proclamations, and that makes your world just as you desire it to be!  How convenient!

Deucalion

The Deucalion legend as told by the Bibliotheca has some similarity to other deluge myths such as the Epic of Gilgamesh and the story of Noah's Ark. The titan Prometheus advised his son Deucalion to build a chest. All other men perished except for a few who escaped to high mountains. The mountains in Thessaly were parted, and all the world beyond the Isthmus and Peloponnese was overwhelmed. Deucalion and his wife Pyrrha, after floating in the chest for nine days and nights, landed on Parnassus. An older version of the story told by Hellanicus has Deucalion's "ark" landing on Mount Othrys in Thessaly. Another account has him landing on a peak, probably Phouka, in Argolis, later called Nemea. When the rains ceased, he sacrificed to Zeus. Then, at the bidding of Zeus, he threw stones behind him, and they became men, and the stones which Pyrrha threw became women. The Bibliotheca gives this as an etymology for Greek Laos "people" as derived from laas "stone".^[8] The Megarians told that Megarus, son of Zeus and a Sithnid nymph, escaped Deucalion's flood by swimming to the top of Mount Gerania, guided by the cries of cranes.^[9]

List of flood myths

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Apr 13, 2012 -- 12:13PM, iamachildofhis wrote:

Apr 13, 2012 -- 10:20AM, Ken wrote:

There have always been mountains and ocean depths. There has never been enough water on earth to flood the whole planet. Anyone who claims there was a global flood isn't a real scientist. Ken Ham, Jonathan Sarfati, and Carl Wieland are not scientists. They are evil evangelists.

You are, certainly, in control of all circumstances this morning!  You make your proclamations, and that makes your world just as you desire it to be!  How convenient!

Spare us the ponderous sarcasm. I just tell the truth. You should try it sometime.

Apr 13, 2012 -- 12:13PM, iamachildofhis wrote:

Deucalion

The Deucalion legend as told by the Bibliotheca has some similarity to other deluge myths such as the Epic of Gilgamesh and the story of Noah's Ark. The titan Prometheus advised his son Deucalion to build a chest. All other men perished except for a few who escaped to high mountains. The mountains in Thessaly were parted, and all the world beyond the Isthmus and Peloponnese was overwhelmed. Deucalion and his wife Pyrrha, after floating in the chest for nine days and nights, landed on Parnassus. An older version of the story told by Hellanicus has Deucalion's "ark" landing on Mount Othrys in Thessaly. Another account has him landing on a peak, probably Phouka, in Argolis, later called Nemea. When the rains ceased, he sacrificed to Zeus. Then, at the bidding of Zeus, he threw stones behind him, and they became men, and the stones which Pyrrha threw became women. The Bibliotheca gives this as an etymology for Greek Laos "people" as derived from laas "stone".^[8] The Megarians told that Megarus, son of Zeus and a Sithnid nymph, escaped Deucalion's flood by swimming to the top of Mount Gerania, guided by the cries of cranes.^[9]

List of flood myths

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I am quite familiar with the story of Deucalion and Pyrrha. It is, of course, a myth, which means that it never happened. Neither did any of the other flood myths, including yours.  All that you've demonstrated here is that the Biblical flood befongs to a large class of preposterous stories. We already knew that.