I find it amusing in a horrible way that they disdain or discount science almost completely. Yet still go to doctors. Maybe that is why they (conservative politicians) want to remove all healthcare from the general populace. And prefer to let people die of treatable and curable diseases. Because they don't like science?

Mar 31, 2012 -- 2:15PM, mainecaptain wrote:

I find it amusing in a horrible way that they disdain or discount science almost completely. Yet still go to doctors. Maybe that is why they (conservative politicians) want to remove all healthcare from the general populace. And prefer to let people die of treatable and curable diseases. Because they don't like science?

I think the main reason they don't like science is because the Koch brothers and other polluters have run and effective advertising and political campaign to teach them that global warming/climate change is a socialist trick to destroy private business. However, IMO it's an attempt to maintain their obscenely high profits. It seems in their minds money is more valuable than people.

Mar 31, 2012 -- 3:30PM, farragut wrote:

I am not yet persuaded that intelligent conservatives have given up on science. Rather, I suspect that intelligent people are giving up on the conservative establishment, since it has been so hijacked by the fundangelicals.

a very probable thought.

Mar 31, 2012 -- 3:30PM, farragut wrote:

I am not yet persuaded that intelligent conservatives have given up on science. Rather, I suspect that intelligent people are giving up on the conservative establishment, since it has been so hijacked by the fundangelicals.

Probably true but it's also the case that intelligent conservatives aren't doing very well at wrenching their party back from the wackadoodles.

Also, point of order: When you say "conservative establishment", that implies that there is an alternative to that establishment. But the only major alternative to the conservative establishment is the Teabaggers and they're borderline fascists, even bigger nutcases.

So essentially, the entire conservative movement these days is either the establishment (sold out to wackadoodles) or the Teabaggers (controlled by wackadoodles). The conservative movement has gotten so extreme in recent years that those who were once reasonable conservatives have, without changing their positions, ended up as independents because the movement has drifted so far to the right-fringe. Ronald Reagan would be considered a RINO in the modern conservative movement. If you're a moderate conservative or even just a not-crazy conservative, your choices are to be hated and resented as a RINO or become a conservative Democrat. Bill Maher was right on this one; the left has moved right and the right has moved into a mental asylum. Obama is actually to the right of Reagan on some issues but the right is now so extreme that they call him a socialist.

Mar 31, 2012 -- 9:05PM, REteach wrote:

I understand that science is groping itself forward. Science does not believe that it has all the answers. When data changes, theories change.  

I wonder if those who are "don't trust science" conservatives are the kind of people who have to have black and white.  Faith is what it is and doesn't change no matter what.  Maybe they can't trust anything that might be subject to change.  

How can we move forward if what we have learned in the past means nothing?

Hello,

You must be in your own little world as some here. Maybe the only Conservatives you see are here on Bnet? Typical of Bnet and doesn't represent the Conservatives I know and typical of Liberals here on Bnet. Maybe it's the case at Berkley?

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