iamachildofhis

Posts: 8,213

Apr 11, 2012 -- 11:10AM, wohali wrote:

iama: "All creationists are creationists, because 'they found the scientific evidence for creationism overwhelming'!"

wohali: Well here is a big old steaming lie! There is no scientific evidence for Biblical creationism.

iama: What evidence is there for all life-forms being reproductively related?

Do deer mate with zebra? elephants with giraffe? frogs with salimanders? etc.?

The evidence which you BELIEVE IS THERE, has NEVER been observed - "goo to zoo to you" evolution!

What has always been observed is reproduction "after his / their KIND" having great variation, worldwide.

Give us scientific evidence that it is OTHER WISE!

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"Father, forgive them for they know not what they do."
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Justice is receiving what you deserve.
Mercy is NOT receiving what you deserve.
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steven_guy

Posts: 11,057

Apr 13, 2012 -- 2:01AM, iamachildofhis wrote:

Apr 11, 2012 -- 11:10AM, wohali wrote:

iama: "All creationists are creationists, because 'they found the scientific evidence for creationism overwhelming'!"

wohali: Well here is a big old steaming lie! There is no scientific evidence for Biblical creationism.

iama: What evidence is there for all life-forms being reproductively related?

Do deer mate with zebra? elephants with giraffe? frogs with salimanders? etc.?

The evidence which you BELIEVE IS THERE, has NEVER been observed - "goo to zoo to you" evolution!

What has always been observed is reproduction "after his / their KIND" having great variation, worldwide.

Give us scientific evidence that it is OTHER WISE!

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You really don't understand science, do you?

Rgurley4

Posts: 3,844

I understand science and human knowledge very well.

Do you unbeleivers spiritually discern the miraculous words of the Bible?

Rgurley4

Posts: 3,844

I am not a "YEC" (whatever that derogatory term means.)

I am not a "creationist" (whatever that broad brush term means.)

I believe that science and belief systems can go hand-in-hand on most issues.

Where science begins and ends, there is my God.

My God is the author of BOTH:

1. all true scientific wisdom and

2. the basis of BELIEF / FAITH in belief systems...like Christ-following

The topic:

The Bible speaks of "kind" / "kinds"

Science loves to "classify".

...Not much conflict that I see.

steven_guy

Posts: 11,057

Apr 13, 2012 -- 3:23AM, Rgurley4 wrote:

Do you unbeleivers spiritually discern the miraculous words of the Bible?

Nope. Because as a piece of written literature, the Bible is a mess.

steven_guy

Posts: 11,057

Apr 13, 2012 -- 3:33AM, Rgurley4 wrote:

I am not a "YEC" (whatever that derogatory term means.)

I am not a "creationist" (whatever that broad brush term means.)

I believe that science and belief systems can go hand-in-hand on most issues.

Where science begins and ends, there is my God.

My God is the author of BOTH:

1. all true scientific wisdom and

2. the basis of BELIEF / FAITH in belief systems...like Christ-following

The topic:

The Bible speaks of "kind" / "kinds"

Science loves to "classify".

...Not much conflict that I see.

Creationists try to use the term "kinds" in a scientific way. We need a scientific definition.

The acronym "Y.E.C." means young earth Creationist and it was coined by Creationists.

rsielin

Posts: 2,820

Apr 13, 2012 -- 2:01AM, iamachildofhis wrote:
iama:

What has always been observed is reproduction "after his / their KIND" having great variation, worldwide.

Give us scientific evidence that it is OTHER WISE!

Actually, there is no scientific evidence otherwise. The scientific evidence clearly shows that life has always reproduced "after his / their KIND". This has been true since the emergence and origin of the very first single celled organism. It's just that all the distant cousins always look and act a bit strangely different. Funny how that is.

Rgurley4

Posts: 3,844

# 146
.....We (A-theists?} need a "scientific" definition (versus a "Biblical" definition)

...of "kind" / KINDS...

SEE:
7 days ago :: Apr 06, 2012 - 11:51AM POST #77

BACK to BASICS ,,,please...by me

No one refuted it..I WIN!

McAtheist

Posts: 6,289

Iam,

So you are just going to ignore the fact that you blatantly lied about a large number of theists when you claimed that they accepted evolution only because they reject God? Not even an apology?

Correct me, but isn't it Satan who is called the "Father of Lies?" So, when you exhibit a consistent pattern of lying about people --- or "bearing false witness" as your magic book calls it --- you must be serving Satan. (How convenient you don't have to read the 10 Commandments as literal instructions! Only the parts of the Bible that don't inconvenience you are literal! Hooray!)

Maybe we should talk about how blindly following the tenets of YECism lead people away from the tenets of Christianity and into idolatry. Or would you rather just keep dodging the whole topic?

In other words, you elevate the teachings of YECism over the teachings of the Bible.

YECIsm: fails as science and fails as theology.

Sigmund

Posts: 1,201

Apr 13, 2012 -- 7:53AM, Rgurley4 wrote:

# 146
.....We (A-theists?} need a "scientific" definition (versus a "Biblical" definition)

...of "kind" / KINDS...

SEE:
7 days ago :: Apr 06, 2012 - 11:51AM POST #77

BACK to BASICS ,,,please...by me

No one refuted it..I WIN!

No one refuted your post because you didn't provide anything to refute.

You were asked for a scientific definition of the word "kinds." You didn't provide one. All you did was list the times the word "kinds" was used in the Bible followed by some word salad that provided no explanation as to the scientific definition of the word.

And it is not just "Atheists" who want scientific definition of kinds. It is any scientist and/or layman with an interest who wants to know so we can evaluate YEC claims.

At least you didn't type

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