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Young Earth? Old Earth?
5 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2012 - 12:09PM #29
wohali
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"Creation science" is an oxymoron, with emphasis on the "moron"..............

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 03, 2012 - 8:50PM #28
F1fan
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Jan 2, 2012 -- 5:11PM, steven_guy wrote:


Jan 1, 2012 -- 10:00AM, 57 wrote:


It truly is amazing how the evo's here think they ask such crushing questions about creation science....yet don't understand their own science.




What's an "evo"?




A person who acknowledges facts, reality, and results in science.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 5:11PM #27
steven_guy
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Jan 1, 2012 -- 10:00AM, 57 wrote:


It truly is amazing how the evo's here think they ask such crushing questions about creation science....yet don't understand their own science.




What's an "evo"?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 02, 2012 - 3:23PM #26
Midutch
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Jan 1, 2012 -- 10:00AM, 57 wrote:

It truly is amazing how the evo's here think they ask such crushing questions about creation science....yet don't understand their own science.


So instead of addressing the question of why the Earth does not have the same amount of visible impact craters that it's companion, the moon, has (which REAL science can explain via tens of millions of years worth of weathering and erosion) you assert that no one here understands the science.


This would be funny ... if it wasn't so sad for you.

"creationism" ... 2000+ years worth of ABYSMAL FAILURE ... and proud of it.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2012 - 11:21PM #25
d_p_m
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Jan 1, 2012 -- 10:00AM, 57 wrote:


It truly is amazing how the evo's here think they ask such crushing questions about creation science....yet don't understand their own science.




This would be a much more telling comment if there were any evidence that creationists in general know anything about any real science.


As it is, it merely stands as further proof that creationists can't recognize or understand science even if it comes up and bites them... as it usually does.


That being the case, they have absolutely no way to judge the understanding of science displayed by those who do in fact understand it.


Just another creo metaphorically shooting himself in the foot, by claiming that 99.9% of biologists don't understand biology, in company with the mass of geologists who creos think don't understand geology, the physicists creos think don't understand physics, the anthropologists creos think don't understand anthropology, the astronomers creos think don't understand astronomy, the geneticists creos think don't understand genetics, the paleontologists creos think don't understand paleontology, the historians creos think don't understand history, and the archeologists creos think don't understand archeology.


Really?


Is that why creos have lawyers writing about genetics, software programmers writing about geology, engineers writing about biology, and evangelists proclaiming about biochemistry, and salesmen writing about physics? Because they understand it better than the experts? Or because they understand science so poorly they can come up with the conclusions the creationists need?

"I am the soul of nature that gives life to the universe."

-- The Charge of the Goddess
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2012 - 9:00PM #24
Blü
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57


the evo's here think they ask such crushing questions about creation science


Any scientific question is beyond the scope of 'creation science', so the evos here can't help but be correct about this.


If nothingness could be naked, it'd be 'creation science'.

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2012 - 8:28PM #23
EarthScientist
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Jan 1, 2012 -- 10:00AM, 57 wrote:


It truly is amazing how the evo's here think they ask such crushing questions about creation science....yet don't understand their own science.




Your "point" was referencing what again?

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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2012 - 12:51PM #22
rsielin
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An interesting point regarding the Moon/Earth relationship. Everyone should remember the famous video of the Earth apparently "rising" over the Moon taken by the Apollo 8 Christmas mission around the Moon.


Well the fact is, if you're standing on the Moon, the Earth doesn't rise, it remains forever in a fixed position.  The Apollo 8 reference to Earth "rising" was due solely to manmade orbital movement of the spacecraft. Nothing natural about it, pure illusion.


Creationists will never understand this since they don't understand science. 


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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2012 - 11:55AM #21
Heretic_for_Christ
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Concerning the moon's rotation:


1. The moon does rotate. The reason that it always presents the same side to Earth is that its period of axial rotation is equal to its period of orbital revolution; this is sometimes called "synchronous rotaition." If the moon did not rotate at all -- that is, if it always presented the same face to some distant star -- then observers on Earth would see different aspects of the moon's surface as it revolves in orbit about the Earth.


2. None of this has anything to do with YEC idiocy.


I prayed for deliverance from the hard world of facts and logic to the happy land where fantasies and prejudices reign. But God spake unto me, saying, "No, keep telling the truth," and to that end afflicted me with severe Trenchant Mouth. So I'm sorry for making cutting remarks, but it's the will of God.
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5 months ago  ::  Jan 01, 2012 - 11:16AM #20
rsielin
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Jan 1, 2012 -- 10:00AM, 57 wrote:


It truly is amazing how the evo's here think they ask such crushing questions about creation science....yet don't understand their own science.



I suppose this now means you are ready to provide compelling empirical evidence that refutes the observed and factual nested hierarchies found in every science discipline in biological sciences.


No true designer would ever permit such an absurd restriction to their creative design process that a true nested hierarchy demands; yet a nested hierarchy is completely consistent and expected with natural processes.


Any serious violation of the natural nested hierarchy would discredit evolution. However, it's your self serving "illusion" of design that has been thoroughly discredited by all of the empirical evidence.


Give it up bro. You're just science challenged as are all creationists.

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