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3 years ago  ::  Aug 22, 2011 - 11:03AM #41
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Aug 21, 2011 -- 11:27PM, Vistronic wrote:


Some assumptions will have to be a made, for Gopher the most logical canidate should be chosen, in addition more likely the wood you can get at your site, hard wood frame, cedar decking hull.




Sure, and I'll even grant you ten kilos of iron (not steel), and small amounts of brass, bronze, copper, and lead. Small amounts. Say 50 kilos total. Before modern technology and the use of explosives in mining, power tools, and modern metallurgical methods, metals were very expensive, and fairly rare. Make that hand smelted, hand forged iron... early techniques didn't produce the same quality of metal modern furnaces do.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 22, 2011 - 11:07AM #42
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Aug 21, 2011 -- 8:16PM, Habakk wrote:


I was addressing the fact that the ark is still preserved on Mt Ararat,




The 'ark' cannot be preserved on Mt Ararat, or anywhere else.


There was no global flood.


The 'ark' as described in the bible could not have survived a global flood if there had been one.


The whole story was likely borrowed from Mesopotamian sources containing a story about a king who commandeered a barge during a river flood.

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3 years ago  ::  Aug 22, 2011 - 12:38PM #43
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Aug 21, 2011 -- 8:16PM, Habakk wrote:

I was addressing the fact that the ark is still preserved on Mt Ararat, because that’s what the subject matter was about.


This is a fact ?   Its not even a fact that the Bible states that the ark came to rest on Mt. Ararat; it states the "mountains" of Ararat.   There are several to choose from.  Maybe everyone's been looking on the wrong mountain.


Now, what if wooden timbers or other materials resembling boat parts were found on one of the mountains in this region, including Ararat; would that consitute a fact that the ark existed ?  Surely, creationists would claim that it "proves" the existence of the ark.


Lets suppose that such mateirals were discovered.  What type and how much scientific data would it take to convince you that the material is from the ark ?  Keep in mind that there is no evidence whatsoever that the event that floated the boat ever occurred. 

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