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7 years ago  ::  Nov 08, 2010 - 11:17AM #1
Guessses
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An IMHO, (nothing verifiable, so therefore it can't be true)


"Once upon a time..."


... There was an advanced civilization. They had Science, Art, Theologians and although the Theologians got along with the Scientists (for the most part) they were concerned that the Sciences had gone "too far". There were machines, genetic experiments, power generation etc. 


Then, one day, as predicted by "doom sayers", it all came crashing down. Pockets of people survived and written history was nearly completely lost as word-of-mouth stories took over. Science was declared "off-limits", after all punishment and death followed. However, questions did come up and those in power squashed those questions as an "abomination" to the "God(s)".


Eventually, rebel Spirited people formed secret societies to study what was forbidden. As time advanced, the Sciences came back, and even fought back against the mysticism that took their place.


End of story. Or is it? Who says that history doesn't repeat itself?


Peace, 

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7 years ago  ::  Nov 08, 2010 - 12:00PM #2
teilhard
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We Human Beings are INFAMOUSLY Relentlessly "Pattern-Seeking" Animals ...


We crave and seek -- and Some Times DISCOVER !!! -- "Meaning(s)" ...


I don't think this Aspect of Being Human will change ... EVER ...

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7 years ago  ::  Nov 08, 2010 - 12:16PM #3
Guessses
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Nov 8, 2010 -- 12:00PM, teilhard wrote:


We Human Beings are INFAMOUSLY Relentlessly "Pattern-Seeking" Animals ...


We crave and seek -- and Some Times DISCOVER !!! -- "Meaning(s)" ...


I don't think this Aspect of Being Human will change ... EVER ...




Quite true.

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7 years ago  ::  Nov 08, 2010 - 9:46PM #4
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Sounds like you are referring to the Dark Ages under Christian rule.  Of course it was Muslims who saved science, or at least saved the materials the ancient Greeks had developed and opened the door to science and the Enlightenment.

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7 years ago  ::  Nov 08, 2010 - 10:15PM #5
Guessses
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Nov 8, 2010 -- 9:46PM, F1fan wrote:


Sounds like you are referring to the Dark Ages under Christian rule.  Of course it was Muslims who saved science, or at least saved the materials the ancient Greeks had developed and opened the door to science and the Enlightenment.




Perhaps, but it's just a story.

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7 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2010 - 11:00AM #6
teilhard
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Human Beings UNIVERSALLY throughout History and across Cultures are indeed Curious, Inventive ... and "Religious" ...


Nov 8, 2010 -- 9:46PM, F1fan wrote:


Sounds like you are referring to the Dark Ages under Christian rule.  Of course it was Muslims who saved science, or at least saved the materials the ancient Greeks had developed and opened the door to science and the Enlightenment.





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7 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 1:16AM #7
Wiscidea
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Nov 9, 2010 -- 11:00AM, teilhard wrote:


Human Beings UNIVERSALLY throughout History and across Cultures are indeed Curious, Inventive ... and "Religious" ...





So you're saying some of us aren't real human beings? Frown

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7 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 8:54PM #8
stardustpilgrim
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Nov 8, 2010 -- 9:46PM, F1fan wrote:


Sounds like you are referring to the Dark Ages under Christian rule.  Of course it was Muslims who saved science, or at least saved the materials the ancient Greeks had developed and opened the door to science and the Enlightenment.




Yes, if I recall correctly, Aristotle was among the saved.


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Roses always come with thorns. Sometimes, thorns first, sometimes roses first, and, sometimes, thorns outside, roses inside, sometimes roses outside, thorns inside.

Someone who dreams of drinking wine at a cheerful banquet may wake up crying the next morning. Someone who dreams of crying may go off the next morning to enjoy the sport of the hunt. When we are in the midst of a dream, we do not know it's a dream. Sometimes we may even try to interpret our dreams while we are dreaming, but then we awake and realize it was a dream. Only after one is greatly awakened does one realize that it was all a great dream, while the fool thinks that he is awake and presumptuously aware. Chuang Tzu
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7 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 9:03PM #9
stardustpilgrim
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Nov 8, 2010 -- 11:17AM, Guessses wrote:


An IMHO, (nothing verifiable, so therefore it can't be true)


"Once upon a time..."


... There was an advanced civilization. They had Science, Art, Theologians and although the Theologians got along with the Scientists (for the most part) they were concerned that the Sciences had gone "too far". There were machines, genetic experiments, power generation etc. 


Then, one day, as predicted by "doom sayers", it all came crashing down. Pockets of people survived and written history was nearly completely lost as word-of-mouth stories took over. Science was declared "off-limits", after all punishment and death followed. However, questions did come up and those in power squashed those questions as an "abomination" to the "God(s)".


Eventually, rebel Spirited people formed secret societies to study what was forbidden. As time advanced, the Sciences came back, and even fought back against the mysticism that took their place.


End of story. Or is it? Who says that history doesn't repeat itself?


Peace, 




Atlantis?


When was in the 5th grade we studied the Summerians. It seemed odd that such an early advanced civilization appeared out of nowhere. Later, upon hearing about the lost land of Atlantis, I figured the Summerians came-from-Atlantis ............. Laughing ..............


sdp

Roses always come with thorns. Sometimes, thorns first, sometimes roses first, and, sometimes, thorns outside, roses inside, sometimes roses outside, thorns inside.

Someone who dreams of drinking wine at a cheerful banquet may wake up crying the next morning. Someone who dreams of crying may go off the next morning to enjoy the sport of the hunt. When we are in the midst of a dream, we do not know it's a dream. Sometimes we may even try to interpret our dreams while we are dreaming, but then we awake and realize it was a dream. Only after one is greatly awakened does one realize that it was all a great dream, while the fool thinks that he is awake and presumptuously aware. Chuang Tzu
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7 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2010 - 9:07PM #10
Guessses
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Nov 11, 2010 -- 9:03PM, stardustpilgrim wrote:


Nov 8, 2010 -- 11:17AM, Guessses wrote:


An IMHO, (nothing verifiable, so therefore it can't be true)


"Once upon a time..."


... There was an advanced civilization. They had Science, Art, Theologians and although the Theologians got along with the Scientists (for the most part) they were concerned that the Sciences had gone "too far". There were machines, genetic experiments, power generation etc. 


Then, one day, as predicted by "doom sayers", it all came crashing down. Pockets of people survived and written history was nearly completely lost as word-of-mouth stories took over. Science was declared "off-limits", after all punishment and death followed. However, questions did come up and those in power squashed those questions as an "abomination" to the "God(s)".


Eventually, rebel Spirited people formed secret societies to study what was forbidden. As time advanced, the Sciences came back, and even fought back against the mysticism that took their place.


End of story. Or is it? Who says that history doesn't repeat itself?


Peace, 




Atlantis?


When was in the 5th grade we studied the Summerians. It seemed odd that such an early advanced civilization appeared out of nowhere. Later, upon hearing about the lost land of Atlantis, I figured the Summerians came-from-Atlantis ............. Laughing ..............


sdp




Sounds reasonable. 

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