Apr 15, 2010 -- 7:07PM, teilhard wrote:

Apr 15, 2010 -- 6:53PM, Blü wrote:

ncg 

blu will say anything

You have the same problem as teilhard.  You're not interested in what's true in reality, only what supports your favorite stories.

 

LOL ...

Brother Blu mistakes HIS "Favorite Stories" ( "The Physical Sciences" ) for "Reality" ...

So you think the physical science don't describe reality.  What do you suppose does, your imagination?

teilhard

"Physics" and "Poetry," e.g., are  EQUALLY Valid-Accurate-REAL Descriptions of "Reality,"

Physics sets out to describe objective reality.

Other disciplines within reasoned enquiry - biology, brain physiology, neuropsychology, certain branches of philosophy &c - set out to describe and explain brain function including the riddle of subjective reality.

Poetry has a variety of uses - song with dance (rhythm), mnemonics, wisdom aphorisms, humor and so on.  One constant element across time is to employ words to evoke particular sets of emotional responses in the reader, for artistic rather than clinical purposes.  A reasoned enquiry into how the various varieties of poetry work would be an aspect of describing and explaining brain function.

Apr 17, 2010 -- 3:21AM, Merlin wrote:

Apr 16, 2010 -- 10:58AM, F1fan wrote:

So you think the physical science don't describe reality.  What do you suppose does, your imagination?

The task of science is not to tell us how the universe is, but rather to see what can be said about it.

It is exactly the task of science to tell us how the universe is, and it is doing a tremendously good job of it, too.

When religion tries to tell us how the universe is, it invariably gets it wrong. For instance, not one religion over the thousands of years that it they've been extant ever got man's true historical context right.

Apr 17, 2010 -- 3:45AM, Merlin wrote:

Apr 17, 2010 -- 3:29AM, Namchuck wrote:

It is exactly the task of science to tell us how the universe is, and it is doing a tremendously good job of it, too.

When religion tries to tell us how the universe is, it invariably gets it wrong. For instance, not one religion over the thousands of years that it they've been extant ever got man's true historical context right.

Sorry. I was just paraphrasing Neils Bohr.

Bad job of paraphrasing.

Apr 17, 2010 -- 4:02AM, Merlin wrote:

Apr 17, 2010 -- 3:55AM, Namchuck wrote:

Apr 17, 2010 -- 3:45AM, Merlin wrote:

Apr 17, 2010 -- 3:29AM, Namchuck wrote:

It is exactly the task of science to tell us how the universe is, and it is doing a tremendously good job of it, too.

When religion tries to tell us how the universe is, it invariably gets it wrong. For instance, not one religion over the thousands of years that it they've been extant ever got man's true historical context right.

Sorry. I was just paraphrasing Neils Bohr.

 

Bad job of paraphrasing.

Only because you disagree.  The exact quote is, "It is wrong to think that the task of physics is to  find out how Nature is. Physics concerns what we say about Nature." (I think my way of saying the same thing is more elegant )

Yes, I do disagree. I think it is the task of physics to find out how Nature is.