| 3 years ago :: Jan 17, 2010 - 9:05PM #1 | |
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"The poison of skepticism becomes, like alcoholism, tuberculosis, and some other diseases, much more virulent in a hitherto virgin soil." Simone Weil When I first read this it didn't make sense to me. How could someone who valued the intellect so much and the necessity of doubt say such a thing? Then it began to make sense when I remembered "apatheia" and what it meant to both Stoicism and Christianity. Apatheia is freedom from emotion. The intellect to serve its purpose must be free of emotional bias and the negativity associated with it. Otherwise associative reason is used as a tool to serve a bias. Now it became clear. Simone was not referring to doubt but rather to emotionally colored doubt: negative pre-conception that indeed is a psychological poison. This is what I read in atheism and what I've experienced on the Internet. The positive atheist exudes negative emotion that ruins the inner psychological benefit of doubt. I was pondering this today and then it became clear how important apatheia is for anyone seriously interested in the great questions of human meaning and purpose that the essence of philosophy and religion seek to address. Where Stoicism was primarily concerned with suppressing emotion, Christianity was concerned with allowing the heart to experience higher emotions that are normal for a higher level of being but are normally blocked. We can experience them and their help for awakening.. But these negative emotions are too satisfying just to surrender for the sake of reality. So everything continues as is. |
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| 3 years ago :: Jan 17, 2010 - 11:22PM #2 | |
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| 3 years ago :: Jan 18, 2010 - 12:16AM #3 | |
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2bme "The poison of skepticism becomes, like alcoholism, tuberculosis, and some other diseases, much more virulent in a hitherto virgin soil." Simone Weil The alternative to skepticism is gullibility. I can see why you don't like skepticism. |
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| 3 years ago :: Jan 18, 2010 - 9:11AM #4 | |
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And let's start out with a REAL definition of skepticism, not some wafty bs:
'Contemporary skepticism (or scepticism) is loosely used to denote any questioning attitude, or some degree of doubt regarding claims that are elsewhere taken for granted.' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skepticism
Skepticism is what drives knowledge forward. Blind acceptance of dogma and 'received wisdom' has been tried in the past. When it happened in Europe we now refer to that time period as the Dark Ages, because the light of inquiry and intelligence was smothered out by the Christian church.
Jesus had two dads, and he turned out alright.~ Andy Gussert
“Feminism has fought no wars. It has killed no opponents. It has set up no concentration camps, starved no enemies, practiced no cruelties. Its battles have been for education, for the vote, for better working conditions…for safety on the streets…for child care, for social welfare…for rape crisis centers, women’s refuges, reforms in the law. If someone says, “Oh, I’m not a feminist,” I ask, “Why, what’s your problem?” Dale Spender |
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| 3 years ago :: Jan 18, 2010 - 10:12AM #5 | |
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It is curious how no one recognizes this idea of the corrupting influence of negative emotion on doubt. Everyone wants to defend the necessity of doubt but no one recognizes the influence of negative emotion on the quality of doubt. What the stoics came appreciate from experience, the atheists are still unwilling and prefer basking in the poison of negative emotion justifying their doubt. |
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| 3 years ago :: Jan 18, 2010 - 10:26AM #6 | |
I think skepticism is a good thing. I'm comfortable with uncertainty and questioning. |
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| 3 years ago :: Jan 18, 2010 - 10:53AM #7 | |
Many theists who cry foul at skepticism do so because they believe that the ideas being scrutinized are somehow sacred and off limits. Those who believe in these ideas don't realize these are just ideas, they have no authority, no special quality. Skeptics have the personal and intellectual authority to deny any claim made by another person when that claim does not meet standards of reason. So there is no corruption except the easy ride faith gives certain concepts.
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| 3 years ago :: Jan 18, 2010 - 10:58AM #8 | |
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| 3 years ago :: Jan 18, 2010 - 11:40AM #9 | |
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As Spock would say: fascinating! |
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| 3 years ago :: Jan 18, 2010 - 11:42AM #10 | |
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Human nature is fascinating! |
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