He-man, do a google search on "shaman masks" and look at what humans have been doing for thousands of years and are still doing today.  I'll bet the "horns" that were on Moses were part of a shaman mask.  If you want terror, look at the outfits worn by the Christians during the Inquistion. 

Jan 7, 2010 -- 10:49PM, ozero wrote:

He-man, do a google search on "shaman masks" and look at what humans have been doing for thousands of years and are still doing today.  I'll bet the "horns" that were on Moses were part of a shaman mask.  If you want terror, look at the outfits worn by the Christians during the Inquistion.

Jan 5, 2010 -- 7:51PM, he-man wrote:

I guess you did not hear me: Pr 15:32  He that refuses instruction despises his own soul: but he that hears reproof gets understanding.

2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The untried is turning back to his own vomit; to the full indulgences of animal pleasures, and the swine that was given cleansed garments, to be stuck in the filth.

Inquistion? that was not a Christian Crusade but of the Roman Catholic Church (1232-1820) pagan filth from the same source as Krampus.

One of the primary causes for this shift in thinking was the increasing influence of Greek philosophy upon Christian scholars.

Also, the Inquisition in Spain from 1480 to 1834 that protected the orthodoxy of Catholicism in Spain and under which an extremely large number of people (especially Jewish people) were tortured and executed The Spanish Inquisition was an institution that had precedents in other Inquisitions. The reconquest of Spain from the Moors resulted in a relatively peaceful multi-religious society, but violent antisemitic and anti-Islamic persecution ensued and many Jews and Muslims converted to the Catholic faith or fled.

In AD 81, the Emperor Domitian came to power after murdering his brother.
He began a policy of Christian persecution.
In AD 115, Irenaeus was born – and here, for the very first time, we find a famous Christian whose beliefs varied greatly from those of the men who had lived before him; he was quite solid, teaching that there would be a resurrection of the dead and a thousand-year reign of Christ on the earth. Irenaeus was strongly opposed to the idea that we go to heaven when we die, realizing that this totally defeated the purpose of the resurrection.

In his Dialogue with Trypho the Jew, Justin had warned against those who did not believe as he did:
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…if you have fallen in with some who are called Christians, but who do not admit the Truth of the resurrection and venture to blaspheme the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; who say that there is no resurrection of the dead, and that their souls when they die are taken to heaven: do not imagine that they are Christians.

… I and others, who are right-minded Christians on all points, are assured that there will be a resurrection of the dead, and a thousand years in Jerusalem, which will then be built, adorned and enlarged, as the prophets Ezekiel and Isaiah and others declare.

Christian doctrine had changed a great deal since the 1st Century AD. Even the views of 2nd Century Christians (such as Justin Martyr and Irenaeus) were being looked down on as “primitive” and “undeveloped.”

By the 4th Century, however, this doctrine had fallen by the wayside and others unlike them – were responsible for the heady mix of Greek philosophical concepts and Biblical doctrine that would lead generations of Christians hopelessly astray from the 1st Century gospel.

Today, their ideas are erroneously defended by the church as if they had always been there.

Ya gotta pity poor he-man.  He wasn't born in the wrong century like Iama, he's not even close to the right millenium.

And the lutherans that did the holocaust weren't christians and the other protestants that massacred the Indians and owned slaves weren't christians and ... Oh, NO!  No one but he-man is a christian.

All the world's crazy

except for me and thee...

and sometimes I'm not sure about thee.

Jan 8, 2010 -- 11:51AM, ozero wrote:

Ya gotta pity poor he-man.  He wasn't born in the wrong century like Iama, he's not even close to the right millenium. And the lutherans that did the holocaust weren't christians and the other protestants that massacred the Indians and owned slaves weren't christians and ... Oh, NO!  No one but he-man is a christian. All the world's crazy except for me and thee... and sometimes I'm not sure about thee.

Joh 6:45  It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every one that has heard from the Father himself, and has learned of him, comes to me;

You will note that reading verse 4, "That you will take up this proverb against the "King of Babylon" and say, "How has the oppressor ceased, the golden city ceased," it becomes clear that this is the King of Babylon and his nation that is being spoken of here.
While this mythological information is available today via translated Babylonian cuneiform text taken from day tablets, it was not as readily available at the time of the Latin translation of the Bible.
Thus, early so-called Christian tradition interperted the passage as a reference to the moment a demoniac  being was thrown from heaven. Lucifer became another name for a mythological Satan and has remained so due to so-called Christian dogma and popular tradition.
However, reading Rev 1:4 "...things which must shortly come to pass..."it is clear that all of what was written in the book by John, is to happen in the FUTURE, and not something that happened beforehand.
You are confused by the mythological figure of Agathodaimon (Greek) the cosmic Christos, the serpent of eternity, which after the fall of the Mediterranean became a Satan to those superstitious people.

Blu: "he-man