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5 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 4:18PM #1
MMarcoe
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Given that creationists assert the Bible to be their authority on creation, and given that they believe in variation within kinds --


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Where is the Biblical support for variation within kinds? What passages support it?


I shall sit back and eagerly await the Biblical evidence for such change.

There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth.

God is just a personification of reality, of pure objectivity.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 4:53PM #2
Blü
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MMarcoe


I hope you're not holding your breath.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 5:13PM #3
Ridcully
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Predictions:


 


1) Some poster who goes only by a number: "I've already addressed this issue and you were refuted."


 


2) Some poster with lots of faith: "You have to use your common sense."


 


3) Some poster who claims to be a child: A very long, rambling post with lots of Bible quotes that doesn't address the issue.

"Things just happen, what the hell."  Didactylos
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 5:23PM #4
Ridcully
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After reading some posts here by a new creationist on our boards, I feel the need to add a new prediction.


 


4) Some poster who could be nicknamed "Windy": "I don't like you guys very much."

"Things just happen, what the hell."  Didactylos
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 6:13PM #5
Slipnish
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Can I put $10.00 on Ridcully's outcomes for the win?

I don't believe it. Prove it to me and I still won't believe it.

~Any Creationist~
(But honestly Douglas Adams)

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'" - Isaac Asimov
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 6:46PM #6
Ken
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Oct 20, 2009 -- 6:13PM, Slipnish wrote:


Can I put $10.00 Ridcully's outcomes for the win?



I think Ridcully may have saved us the trouble of reading any more posts from those persons.

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 8:23PM #7
Desertwind
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Oct 20, 2009 -- 5:23PM, Ridcully wrote:


After reading some posts here by a new creationist on our boards, I feel the need to add a new prediction.


 


4) Some poster who could be nicknamed "Windy": "I don't like you guys very much."




Yea well I am not quite run off yet. Its like a dog returning to its vomit.


I could not find a scripture that directly relates to the question in post #1.


Therefore we have liberty to extrapolate.


 

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 8:26PM #8
MMarcoe
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Oct 20, 2009 -- 8:23PM, Desertwind wrote:


Yea well I am not quite run off yet. Its like a dog returning to its vomit.


I could not find a scripture that directly relates to the question in post #1.


Therefore we have liberty to extrapolate.




Ok. But if we extrapolate, then we risk being in error. We want our science to be fully in line with all the science in the Bible.


What kind of extrapolating do you have in mind?

There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth.

God is just a personification of reality, of pure objectivity.
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5 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 8:47PM #9
Desertwind
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Oct 20, 2009 -- 8:26PM, MMarcoe wrote:


Oct 20, 2009 -- 8:23PM, Desertwind wrote:


Yea well I am not quite run off yet. Its like a dog returning to its vomit.


I could not find a scripture that directly relates to the question in post #1.


Therefore we have liberty to extrapolate.




Ok. But if we extrapolate, then we risk being in error. We want our science to be fully in line with all the science in the Bible.


What kind of extrapolating do you have in mind?





You seem like a reasonable person. So I will try to answer. I do hope that this does not become dis the creationist.


The point is we must consider all the current animals. Lets get that straight. Now all of them are not mentioned in the Bible. I mean every Kind is not mentioned. So we need to establish a initial "kind" reference.  That seems a good starting point does it not?

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5 years ago  ::  Oct 20, 2009 - 10:35PM #10
MMarcoe
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Oct 20, 2009 -- 8:47PM, Desertwind wrote:



You seem like a reasonable person. So I will try to answer. I do hope that this does not become dis the creationist.


The point is we must consider all the current animals. Lets get that straight. Now all of them are not mentioned in the Bible. I mean every Kind is not mentioned. So we need to establish a initial "kind" reference.  That seems a good starting point does it not?





Ok. What is this "kind" reference? How will we determine it? Will we use genetic relationships, morphology (form and structure), or something else?

There are three sides to every story: your side, my side, and the truth.

God is just a personification of reality, of pure objectivity.
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