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6 years ago  ::  Mar 11, 2008 - 2:12PM #41
Relates7
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Thank you for your response to my post.

[QUOTE=Blü;348635].
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We can look at the strength, peace, and love found in the life of Jesus, even in the face of evil impending painful and degrading death to know that.

Or we can assess the facts, do what we can, and try to be excellent to one another.  You don’t need some Ten Percent of your Pay deity breathing down your neck.[/QUOTE]

Response:  How did you come up with this non sequiter?  Speak for yourself, Bro. Blü.  Not all of us are uber mench like you. 

[QUOTE=]Thus we can reasonably expect a deserved rest, reward, and fulfillment after our trials on earth.

It’s called death, and it accounts for the just, the unjust and the in-betweens.[/QUOTE]

Response:  So, Bro. Blü, enlighten us.  What is the meaning of death? 

Love and Peace,

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6 years ago  ::  Mar 11, 2008 - 5:09PM #42
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[QUOTE=iamachildofhis;328207]What power and authority does the "self" have with respect to eternity?

What value does the "self" have with respect to eternity? to whom?



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The meaning of death is simply that the spirit has finished its agreed upon tasks for this lifetime and has accordingly left the body in order to return to the spirit world from which it came prior to the current lifetime.

Science and athiesm are both based on a falsely materialistic view of life that neither can see beyond. Science believes that the world of nature exists because it has been fooled by the physical senses, whereas sophisticated spiritual teachings reveal that the natural world is an illusion, is seemingly brought into being by being dreamed into apparent existence for the sake of seeming to live out a life of separation from God. The natural world and the universe will all disappear some day when we all awaken from the dream.
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6 years ago  ::  Mar 11, 2008 - 5:33PM #43
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Bob_Bennett wrote:

....Science and athiesm are both based on a falsely materialistic view of life that neither can see beyond. ...


Actually science is based on reality. This so called "spirituality" or spirit stuff is simply stuff someone made up. There is no proof for any of it.

Here's an experiment; Start running as fast as you can. Now think of yourself in the spirit world, and run, head first, into a brick wall. Now, is that brick wall material or not? Did believing yourself in the spirit world have any effect on the solidness of the brick wall? Which was false, the spirit world or the brick wall?

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife.
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6 years ago  ::  Mar 11, 2008 - 9:17PM #44
wohali
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Which was false, the spirit world or the brick wall?

The evil atheist...........:cool:
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6 years ago  ::  Mar 11, 2008 - 10:16PM #45
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[QUOTE=Relates7;349342]

What is the meaning of death? 

Love and Peace,

Relates[/QUOTE]

This is my favorite article on Death. It appears to be "just right" if you understand it.

http://www.elijahwald.com/origin.html
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6 years ago  ::  Mar 11, 2008 - 9:17PM #46
wohali
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Which was false, the spirit world or the brick wall?

The evil atheist...........:cool:
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6 years ago  ::  Mar 11, 2008 - 10:16PM #47
exploringinside
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[QUOTE=Relates7;349342]

What is the meaning of death? 

Love and Peace,

Relates[/QUOTE]

This is my favorite article on Death. It appears to be "just right" if you understand it.

http://www.elijahwald.com/origin.html
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6 years ago  ::  Mar 12, 2008 - 12:04AM #48
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wohali wrote:

Which was false, the spirit world or the brick wall?

The evil atheist...........:cool:


:D It's more fun that way. :D

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

I am a Humanist. I believe in a rational philosophy of life, informed by science, inspired by art, and motivated by a desire to do good for its own sake and not by an expectation of a reward or fear of punishment in an afterlife.
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6 years ago  ::  Mar 12, 2008 - 10:31AM #49
Relates7
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[QUOTE=mountain_man;349865]Actually science is based on reality. This so called "spirituality" or spirit stuff is simply stuff someone made up. There is no proof for any of it.

Here's an experiment; Start running as fast as you can. Now think of yourself in the spirit world, and run, head first, into a brick wall. Now, is that brick wall material or not? Did believing yourself in the spirit world have any effect on the solidness of the brick wall? Which was false, the spirit world or the brick wall?[/QUOTE]

Response:  Dave, I guess that you have never experienced a "broken heart" if you think that relationships have no reality?

Love and Peace,

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6 years ago  ::  Mar 12, 2008 - 12:19PM #50
mountain_man
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Relates7 wrote:

Response:  Dave, I guess that you have never experienced a "broken heart" if you think that relationships have no reality?


Your reply made absolutely no sense what so ever. It also had nothing to do with anything I said.:confused:

Dave - Just a Man in the Mountains.

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