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6 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 1:25PM #1
Iman1Islam
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Islam is monotheism =
: the doctrine or belief that there is but one God


Trinity is =
: the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as
three persons in one Godhead according to Christian dogma

1+1+1= 3 (not) 1+1+1=1

When I started studing christianty and Islam,
I fell on my kness and prayed: "O God, you
know everything and I know nothing,
please Guide me to the right religion,
because I dont want to go to hell.

I converted from chritian to Muslim
7 years ago.

Peace
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6 years ago  ::  Aug 30, 2008 - 5:27PM #2
xiananarchist
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I don't think a mathematical formula represents trinitarian theology well.  Indeed, Christianity also argues "that there is but one God."  Have I missed something?
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6 years ago  ::  Oct 03, 2008 - 1:00PM #3
Crowhed
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You've converted because Christianity is wrong? That makes Islam right?

What gave you the idea that there should be only 1 God?
“We are all without god – some of us just happen to be aware of it.” Monica Salcedo (Does anyone know who this is?)
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6 years ago  ::  Oct 03, 2008 - 1:09PM #4
williejhonlo
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[QUOTE=Iman1Islam;726869]Islam is monotheism =
: the doctrine or belief that there is but one God


Trinity is =
: the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as
three persons in one Godhead according to Christian dogma

1+1+1= 3 (not) 1+1+1=1

When I started studing christianty and Islam,
I fell on my kness and prayed: "O God, you
know everything and I know nothing,
please Guide me to the right religion,
because I dont want to go to hell.

I converted from chritian to Muslim
7 years ago.

Peace[/QUOTE] But 1+1+1 can equal one if the other 2 are just expansions of the one.
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6 years ago  ::  Oct 03, 2008 - 10:46PM #5
Omarkhayyam
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"O God, you
know everything and I know nothing,
please Guide me to the right religion,
because I dont want to go to hell."

I would be curious to know WHY you have such a low opinion of yourself and your own ability.

Do you regard yourself as retarded? Or ignorant and lacking the ability to learn?
This is OZ? I want back to KS.

What was it? Click your heels together 3 times and say - what??
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6 years ago  ::  Oct 12, 2008 - 7:06PM #6
Don't_Be_Captious
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Technically she's right.  In terms of *just* monotheism, Islam seems to be the most rigorously self-consistent.  Xtianity's trinity clearly may be interpreted as a polytheism, in a religion that demands monotheism, just yet another in Xtianity's astonishingly long list of hypocrisies, big & small.

Of course, I prefer no theism at all.
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6 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 7:46AM #7
JRT
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For many years I have struggled to understand the theory of the trinity. To say it is a mystery that we are not expected to comprehend simply doesn't cut it. Some time ago I discovered that in the original formulation of the trinity, the word in Greek which we traditionally have interpreted to mean "persons", as in "three persons in one God" is actually the same word used to designate the mask worn by actors in Greco-Roman theater. We cannot call this a "person" but we can certainly call it a "persona". This insight has put a totally new spin on the entire concept for me. We finite creatures cannot possibly hope to describe our transcendent God, but we can speak of the roles or personae that assist our understanding. God as creator/father, God as spirit/sustainer, and the glimpse of God we obtain in the life and teaching of Jesus. We are not limited to just these three. Any persona that promotes our understanding of and our relationship to God is completely acceptable. God could be mother as well as father. God could be Wisdom / Sophia / Word / Allah / Krishna  / Manitou. God's possibilities are endless.  These are merely our human images of God.  God is, as always, ONE.

Some years ago I visited a Hindu temple.  I stood before the altar area staring in silent amazement at the multitude of images of various deities, some of them very bizarre indeed.  I had been there several minutes when I heard a gentle voice behind me say "God is One."  I turned to meet the pundit or priest of the temple.  As he escorted me around the altar area he explained that while God is One, we in our finitude are unable to comprehend the fullness of God in a single "take".  Each one of the "deities" before us was simply a different manifestation of God's Oneness.  We Christians have done much the same with our trinity theory.
the floggings will continue until morale improves
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6 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2008 - 12:22PM #8
Relates7
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Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention.

[QUOTE=Iman1Islam;726869]Islam is monotheism =
: the doctrine or belief that there is but one God


Trinity is =
: the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as
three persons in one Godhead according to Christian dogma

1+1+1= 3 (not) 1+1+1=1

When I started studing christianty and Islam,
I fell on my kness and prayed: "O God, you
know everything and I know nothing,
please Guide me to the right religion,
because I dont want to go to hell.

I converted from chritian to Muslim
7 years ago.

Peace[/QUOTE]

Response:  I understand your confusion, but I hope that I can help you understand why the Christian God is just as much One as Allah. 

First of all you are confusing simplicity with unity.  God is One, but God is not necessarily simple.  God is One in God's own way, not ours.  For example human beings are composed of three basic elements or dimensions.  We are body, we are mind, and we are spirit.  We are each of these and we are all of these and we are one in them. 

We are complex one beings.  We are created to be one or unified in our complexity.   We are not created to be one by denying any of the elements which compose us, our body, our mind, or our spirit, but by uniting them in the Will of God.  In this way 1 + 1 + 1 = ONE.  Body, mind, and Spirit united in the Will of God equals One Saved and Sanctified human being.

In the same way, God the Creator of the universe, God the Son Who is our Savior and Reason for Being, and God the Holy Spirit of Love Who is the Purpose for all Reality work together as One God to create, save, and bring to full fruition God's Will and Plan for humanity and the universe. 

I hope that this explaination helps clarify this important issue.

Love and Peace,

Relates
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6 years ago  ::  Oct 15, 2008 - 4:46PM #9
steven_guy
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[QUOTE=Iman1Islam;726869]Islam is monotheism =
: the doctrine or belief that there is but one God


Trinity is =
: the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as
three persons in one Godhead according to Christian dogma

1+1+1= 3 (not) 1+1+1=1

When I started studing christianty and Islam,
I fell on my kness and prayed: "O God, you
know everything and I know nothing,
please Guide me to the right religion,
because I dont want to go to hell.

I converted from chritian to Muslim
7 years ago.

Peace[/QUOTE]

one imaginary being + one imaginary friend + one imaginary cosmic bogeyman = 0

one imaginary being/friend/bogeyman/tooth fairy/etc. = 0

Sorry to hear about your horrendous mistake.

Steven
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6 years ago  ::  Oct 15, 2008 - 4:50PM #10
steven_guy
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[QUOTE=Don't_Be_Captious;820809]Technically she's right.  In terms of *just* monotheism, Islam seems to be the most rigorously self-consistent.  Xtianity's trinity clearly may be interpreted as a polytheism, in a religion that demands monotheism, just yet another in Xtianity's astonishingly long list of hypocrisies, big & small.

Of course, I prefer no theism at all.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but Islam was founded by a bloke who would be in gaol for pædophilia if he was alive today and Islam's record vis-à-vis the treatment of women and women's rights has been shameful.
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