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10 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2007 - 8:41PM #51
drawkcab
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[QUOTE=Bl├╝;81388].
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Go ye into all the world ...

But as I like to point out, that's a breach of the Golden Rule.

One should not stick one's religious beliefs up someone else's nose unless one wants them to stick theirs up one's own nose.

A point that various evangelists I've met seem to resent.[/QUOTE]

That is a point I myself have a problem with. I can't stay with any Church I go to, for sooner or later this comes in contact with me. Jesus said, Go into the world and preach the gospel to every creature. No where have I found that it says "Go and beat the people over the head with your religion.
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10 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2007 - 9:23PM #52
drawkcab
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[QUOTE=OncominTrain;50270]If the president used cocaine, racked up DUIs, and used his father's influence to avoid active military service, and then many years later plunged the country in to a military morass that was also a diplomatic death sentence, would you do those things too?

(He survived the 2004 vote, so he got his eight years. He'll draw his 1 or 2 thousand dollars a year for the rest of his life. Just the same as Clinton did. And clinton had his chance to rid the world of ol sammy, and didn't. Ol sammy knows that if he raises his head up in front of Bush, he's dead man. He thought he would get the same treatment he got from Clinton, but Bush surpised him there. Now he is just waiting until the demicrates get back in power so he can hit us harder. But there will be no trouble from the democrates and he knows it. The demictates are a bunch of cowards and knows that too. Mark my words boys, when Bush is out, the dung will hit the fan, how can the Dems go to war, when they got in office because they don't no wars. If ol Sammy hits in 2009, and Dems do something, that will make them not only cowards, but a pack of hypoctites as well. a A that is the world will see them too. No they have tied their own hands.) 

People still say Darwin had it right, mostly on his son's say so. who I might add didn't have half the intelligence of his father. Darwin in his book "Species..." stated this about his theroy "Somehow, it never seems to prove its  self." From the time he wrote that ,til the time he died, never reversed his stance on that. And about this leaders of science!!!!! Gore is pushing the theory on global warming. But there is some one that knows more about the earths weather than he does. Consider it;
Weather Channel Founder says Global Warming Greatest Scam in History


If the founder of The Weather Channel spoke out strongly against the manmade global warming myth, might media members notice?

We're going to find out the answer to that question soon, for John Coleman wrote an artical published at ICECAP Wednesday that should certainly garner attention from press members -- assuming journalism hasn't been completel y replaced by propagandist activism, that is.

Coleman marvelously began (emphasis added, h/t NB reader coffee250):
It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in [sic] allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the "research" to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild "scientific" scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmental conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minutes documentary segment.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious.
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10 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2007 - 9:40PM #53
nicoletate
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[QUOTE=drawkcab;81681][QUOTE=OncominTrain;50270]If the president used cocaine, racked up DUIs, and used his father's influence to avoid active military service, and then many years later plunged the country in to a military morass that was also a diplomatic death sentence, would you do those things too?

(He survived the 2004 vote, so he got his eight years. He'll draw his 1 or 2 thousand dollars a year for the rest of his life. Just the same as Clinton did. And clinton had his chance to rid the world of ol sammy, and didn't. Ol sammy knows that if he raises his head up in front of Bush, he's dead man. He thought he would get the same treatment he got from Clinton, but Bush surpised him there. Now he is just waiting until the demicrates get back in power so he can hit us harder. But there will be no trouble from the democrates and he knows it. The demictates are a bunch of cowards and knows that too. Mark my words boys, when Bush is out, the dung will hit the fan, how can the Dems go to war, when they got in office because they don't no wars. If ol Sammy hits in 2009, and Dems do something, that will make them not only cowards, but a pack of hypoctites as well. a A that is the world will see them too. No they have tied their own hands.) 

People still say Darwin had it right, mostly on his son's say so. who I might add didn't have half the intelligence of his father. Darwin in his book "Species..." stated this about his theroy "Somehow, it never seems to prove its  self." From the time he wrote that ,til the time he died, never reversed his stance on that. And about this leaders of science!!!!! Gore is pushing the theory on global warming. But there is some one that knows more about the earths weather than he does. Consider it;
Weather Channel Founder says Global Warming Greatest Scam in History


If the founder of The Weather Channel spoke out strongly against the manmade global warming myth, might media members notice?

We're going to find out the answer to that question soon, for John Coleman wrote an artical published at ICECAP Wednesday that should certainly garner attention from press members -- assuming journalism hasn't been completel y replaced by propagandist activism, that is.

Coleman marvelously began (emphasis added, h/t NB reader coffee250):
It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in [sic] allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the "research" to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild "scientific" scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmental conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minutes documentary segment.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious.[/QUOTE]

You sound like Dale Dribble, from "King of the Hill".
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10 years ago  ::  Nov 19, 2007 - 9:50PM #54
KARD9000
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[QUOTE=drawkcab;81681][QUOTE=OncominTrain;50270]If the president used cocaine, racked up DUIs, and used his father's influence to avoid active military service, and then many years later plunged the country in to a military morass that was also a diplomatic death sentence, would you do those things too?

*** I'm not sure your taking OncominTrain's statement as intended.


(He survived the 2004 vote, so he got his eight years. He'll draw his 1 or 2 thousand dollars a year for the rest of his life. Just the same as Clinton did. And clinton had his chance to rid the world of ol sammy, and didn't. Ol sammy knows that if he raises his head up in front of Bush, he's dead man. He thought he would get the same treatment he got from Clinton, but Bush surpised him there. Now he is just waiting until the demicrates get back in power so he can hit us harder. But there will be no trouble from the democrates and he knows it. The demictates are a bunch of cowards and knows that too. Mark my words boys, when Bush is out, the dung will hit the fan, how can the Dems go to war, when they got in office because they don't no wars. If ol Sammy hits in 2009, and Dems do something, that will make them not only cowards, but a pack of hypoctites as well. a A that is the world will see them too. No they have tied their own hands.) 

*** This would be better served if it was posted on the US Political & News Board.


People still say Darwin had it right, mostly on his son's say so. who I might add didn't have half the intelligence of his father. Darwin in his book "Species..." stated this about his theroy "Somehow, it never seems to prove its  self." From the time he wrote that ,til the time he died, never reversed his stance on that. And about this leaders of science!!!!! Gore is pushing the theory on global warming. But there is some one that knows more about the earths weather than he does.

**** Not sure about this.


Consider it;
Weather Channel Founder says Global Warming Greatest Scam in History


If the founder of The Weather Channel spoke out strongly against the manmade global warming myth, might media members notice?

We're going to find out the answer to that question soon, for John Coleman wrote an artical published at ICECAP Wednesday that should certainly garner attention from press members -- assuming journalism hasn't been completel y replaced by propagandist activism, that is.

Coleman marvelously began (emphasis added, h/t NB reader coffee250):
It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in [sic] allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the "research" to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild "scientific" scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmental conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minutes documentary segment.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious.

*** And this would be better served on the Environmental Board.  See Bodean.

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I'm just offering a little friendly direction.  There are way more experienced people on this board that might have better ideas on how to address your post - I bow to their advice.  :)
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10 years ago  ::  Nov 29, 2007 - 1:41PM #55
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Evolution is fact. I am not impressed that Bush has gone on the bandwagon here. It's not a design that 99% of our DNA watches the Chimpanzee and the Bonobo. It's the fact that we share a common evolutionary past. Richard
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10 years ago  ::  Nov 29, 2007 - 7:55PM #56
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dale dribble! ...lol
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10 years ago  ::  Jul 27, 2008 - 2:45PM #57
Vistronic
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As we approach the election it appears there is no creation candidate. But as close as we can get is a Theo-Evo McCain. That is if I understand him correctly.

Now Obama if indeed he follows mainline Theology would be a Creationist. I wonder? Has anyone heard? Is he a Theo-Evo like McCain.
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10 years ago  ::  Jul 27, 2008 - 2:54PM #58
Christianlib
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"mainline theology" is NOT Creationist.

Obama is United Church of Christ. You can, if reality is important to you, find a lot of information at their web site.

Note:  That is "United Church of Christ," not "Churches of Christ" is is a very consevative group, and unrelated.
Democrats think the glass is half full.
Republicans think the glass is theirs.
Libertarians want to break the glass, because they think a conspiracy created it.
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10 years ago  ::  Jul 27, 2008 - 3:06PM #59
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[QUOTE=Vistronic;651314]As we approach the election it appears there is no creation candidate. But as close as we can get is a Theo-Evo McCain. That is if I understand him correctly.

Now Obama if indeed he follows mainline Theology would be a Creationist. I wonder? Has anyone heard? Is he a Theo-Evo like McCain.[/QUOTE]


Given that the only anti-evolution 'Creationists' are those who are either scientifically ignorant or scientifically obstinate, I hope Obama is neither.
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10 years ago  ::  Jul 27, 2008 - 3:14PM #60
Vistronic
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United Church of Christ embracing evolution




In a new statement on faith, science, and technology from the United Church of Christ, evolution is described as a matter of fact and a way in which God creates. Entitled "A New Voice Arising: A Pastoral Letter on Faith Engaging Science and Technology" (PDF), the statement contains a paragraph reading:[INDENT]Evolution helps us see our faithful God in a new way. Our creator works patiently, calling forth life through complex processes spanning billions of years and waiting for us to awaken and respond in conscious participation in God's own overarching dream for all living things. Evolution also helps us see ourselves anew, as creatures who share a common origin with other species. Today we know that human bodies and brains share the same genetic and biochemical processes with other creatures, not just mammals but insects, plants, and bacteria. How then should we understand ourselves as evolved creatures, sharing much of our DNA with other species, and at the same time as distinct creatures in the image of God? [/INDENT]The general minister and president of the United Church of Christ, the Reverend John H. Thomas, told The New York Times (January 31, 2008) that the statement was in part intended to counter "the creationist approach, the continuing caricature of the opposition of evolution and religion."

http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/news/2 … 4_2008.asp


Well I am a little surprised by this!
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