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6 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2007 - 10:29AM #21
spiritalk
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There is spirit beyond the mind.  The spirit contains the mind - a duplicate brain - sort of - through which all experience is recorded.  The spirit mind and the physical mind come together at death as the total mind, to carry on in spirit form.  This way all human experiences are recorded and remembered for the continuity of our journey of life - through death.
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6 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2007 - 1:58PM #22
barblee
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Religion is man made.  God and man are spiritually connected.  The connection between God and man is a heart thing.  When we receive Him He is in our heart. He is a part of us. 

The human mind can not be the determining factor in a person's salvation. The call is on our heart, not our mind.  That is why you have such a large faction of society that are unable to come to terms with it.  They want to reason it out.  You can not reason it out.  It is a divine miracle, the call of God upon us.

I dont know if I agree with this at all.  people prefer to discuss religion and the mind separately.  God spews religion out of his mouth.   If you are in Christ then your mind will be filled with Godly things, if not, the mind will be filled with wordly things.

You are seeing atheism sweeping the world; this is scripturally correct.  In the last days man will walk away from God. His heart will become cold.  We are seeing that in this country and in the world.  It is a sign of Jesus coming.

Our emotions are a gift from God.  I don't   agree with religion designed to appeal
to the human emotions.  I am not into religion.  I am into a personal relationship with God.  Religion has nothing to do with it.    In being in Jesus, our behavior and our emotions should be a result of our relationship with Him and should be about how He would deal with daily life and life's situations and circumstances.

If  you are a practicing Christian,  God leads the way and you follow; you develop obedience to Him.  You look to Him and for Him in all things.  I don't call this religion, I call it His call upon our life...
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6 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2007 - 7:45PM #23
exploringinside
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[QUOTE=barblee;63216]Religion is man made.  God and man are spiritually connected.  The connection between God and man is a heart thing.  When we receive Him He is in our heart. He is a part of us. 

The human mind can not be the determining factor in a person's salvation. The call is on our heart, not our mind.  That is why you have such a large faction of society that are unable to come to terms with it.  They want to reason it out.  You can not reason it out.  It is a divine miracle, the call of God upon us.[/QUOTE]

It should be obvious that you are not refering to the blood-pumping heart muscle but to something else. If you don't mind, please define the "heart."

[QUOTE=barblee;63216]
You are seeing atheism sweeping the world; this is scripturally correct.  In the last days man will walk away from God. His heart will become cold.  We are seeing that in this country and in the world.  It is a sign of Jesus coming.[/QUOTE]

I think you should not worry about nearing the last days. According to the latest statistics, a relative small percentage actually claim Atheism and somewhere around 88% of thee world's population believe in a God, gods or actually practice some form of religion. More than half the world's population believes in the existence of the God of Abraham.

[QUOTE=barblee;63216]Our emotions are a gift from God.  I don't   agree with religion designed to appeal
to the human emotions.  I am not into religion.  I am into a personal relationship with God.  Religion has nothing to do with it.    In being in Jesus, our behavior and our emotions should be a result of our relationship with Him and should be about how He would deal with daily life and life's situations and circumstances.[/QUOTE]

Can you identify any specific appeals to emotions found in religions? You say that emotional appeals don't belong in religions yet you describe behavior and emotions tied to your relationship; apparently the religions also hope to foster some kind of emotional relationship, too.
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6 years ago  ::  Nov 12, 2007 - 8:05PM #24
AndyF
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barblee wrote:

R  God spews religion out of his mouth.   If you are in Christ then your mind will be filled with Godly things, if not, the mind will be filled with wordly things.



Hello Barblee, welcome to Beliefent...
What about the rest of us spiritual people who don't happen to be Christian?

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6 years ago  ::  Nov 15, 2007 - 7:02AM #25
barblee
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Would you explain your thoughts on "spiritual people who are not Christians".
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6 years ago  ::  Nov 15, 2007 - 7:04AM #26
barblee
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There are many "spirits", the seen and unseen.  So to say you are spiritual and not in Christ is foreign to me.
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6 years ago  ::  Nov 15, 2007 - 7:38AM #27
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As I understand things, Christians do not have a monopoly on spirituality. Most Christians like to think they have this, but, as far as I'm concerned they don't. One of many places to start realizing spirituality is elsewhere is here ...

barblee wrote:

There are many "spirits", the seen and unseen.  So to say you are spiritual and not in Christ is foreign to me.

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6 years ago  ::  Nov 15, 2007 - 9:21AM #28
AndyF
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barblee wrote:

There are many "spirits", the seen and unseen.  So to say you are spiritual and not in Christ is foreign to me.



Non Christian spiritual people would include Neo-Pagans, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Shinto, Muslims, indigenous religious followers, any one who has a concept of deity, soul, or other religious aspects but reject formal organization, etc.

What makes you think all of us are not spiritual?

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6 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2007 - 11:40AM #29
barblee
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Of I course I have emotions for my Father in Heaven.  He is my Creator.  He knew me before I was in my mother's womb.  He is my Father.  The emotion that comes from knowing and worshiping God is love.  Love for Him, love for His church (that is, you and me) and love for all mankind.  Love is the greatest gift of all.  The church is about love, about repentence and about forgiveness.  All emotions.  But if these emotions haven't been placed in your heart (the pulsing, dynamic heart, the organ) you can't have them.  These emotions are divine (gift from the Father).  He has many gifts for us.  That heart (the one that beats in regular rhythm) becomes cold when away from the Father, in fact, scripture says if you stay away too long then He makes it cold forever.   This vital organ is the place where God dwells in spirit, guiding, caring, loving and teaching.  It is an awesome divine event.
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6 years ago  ::  Nov 16, 2007 - 11:42AM #30
barblee
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My bible tells me that to determine your salvation is knowing how much of the Holy Spirit resides in you.  This is a palpable, real feeling, tangible.  You know it. You feel it.  I can go back and give you book and verse of the bible if you wish.
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