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5 years ago  ::  Sep 29, 2009 - 3:58PM #1
Reformationnow
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The real scoop is in an article titled Freemasonry.


It's important because Dan Brown's new book and movie, The Lost Symbol, feature Freemasonry and bring attention to it. But it's especially important because the so-called "Chrstian Right" has been maligning Freemasonry for the last three decades.


It's time for the truth to be known, at long last, to counter the misunderstandings and ignorance about the true purpose of Freemasonry.


P.S.: There is a newer article on A Symbolic Prophecy that is related.

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5 years ago  ::  Nov 08, 2009 - 1:58PM #2
Wendyness
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What happened to this tread?  There are numerous replies to this that are not showing up.

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 22, 2011 - 9:10PM #3
Reformationnow
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Nov 8, 2009 -- 1:58PM, Wendyness wrote:


What happened to this tread?  There are numerous replies to this that are not showing up.





I wonder too. But that's not really the reason I'm posting this comment, because it's to tell you of a new article that discusses not only Freemasonry, but the Rosicrucian Order and the Sacred Tarot. It's called A Pictorial Prophecy.

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 23, 2011 - 10:29PM #4
LeahOne
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I wonder why anyone would think Hillel the Elder was connected to the Tarot, or that the Freemasons had anything to do with it.


The kind of 'prophesy' which Christianity accepts - prognostication - is anathema to all streams of judaism and has been so from the beginning.  By virtue of being a pious Jew, there is no way Hillel the Elder would ever have been involved in such activity - which is squarely within the Jewish definition of 'idolatry'.


I dont' know who wrote that 'article' - but they obviously are very ignorant of actual Jewish belief and practice to even suggest such a thing.  I can't understand why someone would want to slander Hillel so, with the stain of a sin which Hillel would have seen as killing his soul : ((


Not that I think there's anything intrinsically 'wrong' with the Tarot:  it's simply that it is NOT something any Jew with even a very basic education in the religion would ever choose to learn or use themselves.  There are a lot of things which YHVH forbade the Israelites, which are not harmful for other peoples to do - but if it's something forbidden as part of the Sinai Covenant, a Jew will never knowingly do it.

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 4:08PM #5
Reformationnow
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Hillel the Elder was a Kabbalistic Jewish Essene, and the Kabbalah, which is the esoteric Secrets of the Torah practiced by the wisest Jews, came to be known in the West as Qabalah.


It is not idolotry. Far from it. In fact, Qabalah is an expansion and advancement of the Kabbalah which was solidly practiced in the days of King Solomon's Temple, and Hillel the Elder was quite familiar with it.


Jewish Kabbalistic teaching is based on a pictorial "Tree of Life" diagram, which shows the ten emanations of God, the ten Sephirot, connected by 22 paths of Wisdom identified by the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet. And that is the foundation for the Western Qabalah, and the ageless wisdom teachings.


It is an esoteric teaching, which means it is practiced and understood only by the few who have an eye to see, and most people know little or nothing about it.


In fact, because the Qabalah is an esoteric teaching, orthodox and "fundamentalist" religious people are suspicious of it, and because of their ignorance they tend to dismiss it. And the most igorant even slander and denigrate practitioners of Qabalah, as if their secrecy indicates they are doing something wrong. But that is not true.


The secrecy of the Rosicrucians, Freemasons (like George Washington and Benjamin Franklin) and others who utilize the esoteric teachings was merely a response to persecution by the Roman Catholic Church during the Dark Ages and the Inquisition. Then it was a response to the persecution by Protestant Christians like the patriarch of the theocratic Anglican Church after the Reformation. And it was again a response to the persecution of Protestant Christians in New England after the infamous "Witch Hunts."


This is important because increasingly during the last 30 years theocratic "religious" leaders have been moving toward a New Inquisition

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3 years ago  ::  Jun 30, 2011 - 10:36PM #6
Reformationnow
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For those who might be interested, the Sinai Covenant is usually called the Mosaic Covenant. It is a conditional covenant made between God and the nation of Israel at Mount Sinai (Exodus 19-24).


It is called the Mosaic Covenant because Moses was called to be the leader of the Israelites at that time. It is based on the ten commandments that Moses wrote, but it also foretells the coming of a prophet from our midst and of our brethren, a Mashiach (or Messiah).


Hillel the Elder declared that it could be summed up in the Golden Rule. And that's true, though today many Jews, Christians and Muslims just don't get it -- yet.


P.S.: Read this article on The New Covenant.

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2011 - 8:32PM #7
LeahOne
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Jun 29, 2011 -- 4:08PM, Reformationnow wrote:


Hillel the Elder was a Kabbalistic Jewish Essene, and the Kabbalah, which is the esoteric Secrets of the Torah practiced by the wisest Jews, came to be known in the West as Qabalah.


>>>>Please document your sources for associating R. Hillel with the Kabbala.


It is not idolotry. Far from it. In fact, Qabalah is an expansion and advancement of the Kabbalah which was solidly practiced in the days of King Solomon's Temple, and Hillel the Elder was quite familiar with it.


>>>>> This is apparently a 'secret' which has been kept from the entire mainstream community of historians of Judaism.  I'd like to see something beyond one anonymous person's electronic word on the topic.  Got any references?


Jewish Kabbalistic teaching is based on a pictorial "Tree of Life" diagram, which shows the ten emanations of God, the ten Sephirot, connected by 22 paths of Wisdom identified by the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet. And that is the foundation for the Western Qabalah, and the ageless wisdom teachings.


It is an esoteric teaching, which means it is practiced and understood only by the few who have an eye to see, and most people know little or nothing about it.


>>>>>> Not exactly:  it is recommended that a person study Torah and Talmud first, as that is the entire context of Kabbala.   Further, it's suggested that one have attained the age of at least 40 before beginning....


In fact, because the Qabalah is an esoteric teaching, orthodox and "fundamentalist" religious people are suspicious of it, and because of their ignorance they tend to dismiss it. And the most igorant even slander and denigrate practitioners of Qabalah, as if their secrecy indicates they are doing something wrong. But that is not true.


>>>>>What *is* true is that it's virtually worthless if removed from its cultural context of Judaism.  It's like Westerners playing with the I Ching for 'fortune-telling'....


The secrecy of the Rosicrucians, Freemasons (like George Washington and Benjamin Franklin) and others who utilize the esoteric teachings was merely a response to persecution by the Roman Catholic Church during the Dark Ages and the Inquisition. Then it was a response to the persecution by Protestant Christians like the patriarch of the theocratic Anglican Church after the Reformation. And it was again a response to the persecution of Protestant Christians in New England after the infamous "Witch Hunts."


>>>>>>  Kabbala has nothing to do with Freemasonry, unless you're privy to some *very* secret information not given to Master Masons.  That being the 'Jewish' spelling - the Christians tend to spell it 'Cabala', the 'New Age' types as 'Qabala'.


The Freemasons *deny* any connection between themselves and K/C/Qabala - if some individual Freemasons claim so, they do so as individuals - not as 'spokesmen' for Freemasonry.


This is important because increasingly during the last 30 years theocratic "religious" leaders have been moving toward a New Inquisition





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3 years ago  ::  Jul 04, 2011 - 8:34PM #8
LeahOne
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www.koshertorah.com/PDF/KabbalahMasonsan...


Here is an article on the topic which should be rather informative.  : ))

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 06, 2011 - 2:51PM #9
Reformationnow
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For those interested in learning in the light of a new view, here are some articles very relevant to the prophecies in the Hebrew Torah and Tanakh, and one about The New Covenant.


The Messiah Is Not the Savior


The New Covenant


Isaiah Chapter 53


Prophecies Re: He Who Fulfills Them


Where Is Zion?

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3 years ago  ::  Jul 06, 2011 - 8:11PM #10
Reformationnow
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I checked out the link Leah provided about the influence of Kabbalah and Freemasonry on the Founding Fathers. <www.koshertorah.com/PDF/KabbalahMasonsan...>


It's written by Rabbi Ariel Bar Tzadok, and the article is: The Role of the Kabbalah in the Founding of the United States of America


He states:


"These spiritual disciplines have never been lost to the Jewish people. As a result of the Jewish exile into foreign lands, these prophetic teachings were safeguarded and passed down only to those who were worthy and able to receive them. Thus the prophetic teachings became known as the ‘received’, i.e., the Kabbalah."


"These teachings were passed down almost exclusively by word of mouth for twelve hundred years since the destruction of the holy Temple in Jerusalem in 68 C.E. After this time, the Kabbalists teach, permission was granted by Heaven to put many of the ancient teachings into writing. And that is when problems began."


The problems for Jewish Kabbalists were not only caused by the Romans, but also by Paulist Christians. Those problems persisted, and then in the fourth century when Paulist Christianity became the religion of the Roman Empire, even bigger problems ensued. What followed was the Dark Ages, the Inquisition, etc., brought on by a misguided "Christian" Theocracy.


That shows that the above statement and others by Rabbi Tzadok supports what the modern son of man says.


Where they disagree is about the difference between Jewish Kabbalah and universal, inclusive Qabalah.


Rabbi Tzadok dismisses the Western Qabalah as "distorted" and not true to God, but that may be because the original Rosicrucians, from whose teachings Freemasonry was born, were true to Kabbalah as practiced not only by the great Jewish leader, Hillel the Elder, but also by the next generation of Jewish Essenes who became Christian Jews (as distinguished from Paulist Christians).


Of course there may not be any "proof" that Hillel practiced Kabbalah, but it's clear from his teachings. It is clear that the House of Hillel, unlike the House of Shammai, understood the esoteric mystical teachings.


It also appears that Tzadok may not be aware that God can call someone to be a prophet who has little or no religious affiliation. Tzadok seems to be like many Jews who are very exclusive regarding who they think is a prophet. But the truth is that no amount of study or reading or prayer can achieve the divine Wisdom that comes only from God.


Anyway, we all know that it is best to do as Hillel taught, to not do anything to others that which is hateful to you. That's essentially what Jesus of Nazareth taught, to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. And it's what the modern son of man teaches, to treat all others as you would want to be treated if you were them.


That's what it boils down to. 

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