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2 years ago  ::  Oct 28, 2012 - 3:37PM #31
Mastergunny
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Sometimes torture does work and sometimes it doesn't. You have to be able to discern between other intel to see if what the person being tortured is saying is fact or fiction. You can make anyone say anything you want if you word the questions put to them in a manner that befits what you want to hear.

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 29, 2012 - 2:44PM #32
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Wether or not torture works or dosen't work is not the question. 


The question is wether or not you can get "information" without torture. 


The question is what is or is not "torture".  


According to international law, "torture" is illegal.  


The question is wether there can be an agreed up standard as to what is torture and what is.....enhanced interragation. 


Is waterboarding torture or enhanced interrogationn? 


Is the burning or desacration of the Bible "torture"? 


How about offensive and degrading images of our lord and savior jesus christ?


Is solitary confinement for an extended period of time torture? 


Threatening the lives of a person's family?   

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2 years ago  ::  Oct 29, 2012 - 6:58PM #33
Mastergunny
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Getting information without torture would depend on the individual you're trying to get the info from. Passive means of interrogation works on some people and others it doesn't. By definition torture is the inflicting of severe pain on the body or mind. So burning a bible wouldn't be considered torture, degrading Images of our Lord Jesus wouldn't be torture either. Solitary confinement could be torture depending on the area of confinement and the length of confinement, threatening someone's family wouldn't be torture.


Causing severe physical and or mental pain doesn't always work either, it also depends on the individual being tortured. I can tell you that it does without doubt work on some people.


Is it against international law? Yes. Does everyone follow the law? No. Almost every country tortures and the one's that don't most likely allow another country to do their dirty work for them.


Water-boarding is torture, it doesn't cause physical pain, but it sure does cause mental pain. I've had it done to me in a controlled situation so the mental pain isn't quiet there since you know what the outcome will be. If you didn't know the outcome then it's definitely severe mental pain not knowing if your going to die.


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