Jun 8, 2009 -- 3:37PM, Christianlib wrote:

Jun 8, 2009 -- 2:06PM, Lonesentinel wrote:

Jun 8, 2009 -- 12:25PM, Christianlib wrote:

Roeder is now strongly implying, in a phone call from jail, that he had supporters, and that other similar "actions" are planned around the country.

 

It's possible he's just crazy.

It's possible he's both crazy AND part of a larger plot.

Would you link the story please?...

 

Have I ever lied to you?

 

The LINK.

*chuckle*...nothing better than to get it from the source, my friend.  We both have an affinty toward seeing it with our own eyes...

Jun 8, 2009 -- 4:35PM, IDBC wrote:

Howdy Lone

Jun 8, 2009 -- 3:32PM, Lonesentinel wrote:

Thanks for the link, IDBC.  Let us hope that this murderer is as delusional about others who would follow his example as he is that he was performing G-d's work.

My hope is that IF there were others who assisted Scotty that they be charged with conspiracy to commit murder.

As far as I am concerned it somewhat........problematic distinguishing a "belief" from a "delusion".  I think he sincerly believed that he was doing God's work.   How  do you distinguish a sincerly held belief from a delusion? 

Do you believe that the killing of a fetus is the same as the murdering of a baby? 

Do you believe that God's law takes precedence over man's law? 

Do you sympathize with Scotty's end, stopping abortion, but disagree with his means? 

HAVE A  THINKING DAY AND MAY REASON BLESS YOU !

 

 

I'd love to answer your questions -  in another thread.  I do not want to derail this thread anymore than I might be apart of.

EDIT: Also, being that these questions deal more with values and morals that both of us would base on our beliefs, I would be most comfortable discussing it in mails - except for the question about Scotty's methods.  The murderer's methods are immoral by my opinion and so I cannot sympathize.

Jun 9, 2009 -- 12:07PM, Wampy wrote:

 After reading some of the fascinating posts here, I just have to ask some folks...  Is there a critical difference between this murder "in the name of god" and the muslim who shoots up a recruiting station in the name of god?  Or the suicide bomber blowing up a market or downing a plane "in the name of god"?  Aside from the name of the god in question, what's the difference?

 The doctor is satan or doing his work, so it's ok to kill him?  That seems to be what I have read in a few posts here.  I'm guessing the same people do not similarly agree with muslims killing our folks because they believe we are satan or doing his work.  If one is ok and the other is not, that is some serious moral relativism!  Would love to hear an explanation on that one!

You can comment on the murder of the solider.  A new thread was created on that very topic on this board.

Here's the thread and the link.

Media Bias re: Murders
community.beliefnet.com/go/thread/view/5...

This thread is about the Tiller murder.

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Howdy Lone

Jun 8, 2009 -- 4:39PM, Lonesentinel wrote:

  

 I'd love to answer your questions -  in another thread.  I do not want to derail this thread anymore than I might be apart of.

EDIT: Also, being that these questions deal more with values and morals that both of us would base on our beliefs, I would be most comfortable discussing it in mails - except for the question about Scotty's methods.  The murderer's methods are immoral by my opinion and so I cannot sympathize.

Ok I can respect that.  

You state that you do not sympathize with Scotty's methods,  do you sympathize with his goals ? 

Have A Thinking Day And May Reason Bless You !

Do I agree wiith the mission of a man so consummed with hatred and the belief he was "doing God's work" that he convinced himself it was okay to gun him down during  a church service  in a House of God, traumatizing the congregation and threatening members of the congregation?

That's easy. NO. I don't pretend that I am equipped to know the mind of God.  I'm prochoice although my first choice will always be contraception. Whether you agree with the law or not, what Dr.Tiller was doing was legal and what his murderer did was compounded by the place he executed him.  The doctor had a pending trial that most of the PL group has  been sure would have gone against him.  If so, it would have put him out of business. Apparently his killer didn't trust God enough to handle it and took the whole deal into his own hands.

We'll never know if the clinic would have been shut down legally, and it would have been an important ruling regardless of which side won.