Vanillaangel wrote:

You're entitled to your opinion.
However, by medical standards, the parasite reference is valid. The human zygote, embryo, fetus, feti, are/is a parasite with human cells. One would think a biologist would know that.

The parasite reference is incorrect.

The correct scientific definition of symbiosis is:

The relation between two different species of organisms that are interdependent.
http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Symbiosis

For the PCers to state otherwise is either being dishonest or ignorant.

Vanillaangel wrote:

Well it's certainly not in evidence the PL crowd has ever been dishonest or ignorant.

symbiosis (Biology Online Dictionary)

Anton de Bary's original definition says: a long relationship between two different species. To this can be added, mutualism, (benefit for both), commensalism (benefit for one neutral for the other) and parasitism (benefit for one, costly for the other).
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[*]The relation between two different species of organisms that are interdependent; each gains benefits from the other. A relationship between different species where both of the organisms in question benefit from the presence of the other. An example is the hermit crab who's shell offers a niche for anemones to exist in which can defend the crab with its stinging capabilies.[/LIST]
Notice, no reference to human cluster of cells (zygote), embryo or fetus!? Because there is a relation between similar species, in a pregnancy, that are not mutually dependent upon each other.  The parasite is dependent on the host exclusively. The host is not dependent upon the parasite.

Please stop trying to use science to back up your parasite theory. Science clearly defines a parasite as a different species--there is no way around it. Some PCers need to use cheap dehumanization tactics to bolster their otherwise weak argument. Pathetic.

Vanillaangel wrote:

You're entitled to your opinion. ..

What I gave was not an opinion but a scientific definition.

faith713 wrote:

Please stop trying to use science to back up your parasite theory. Science clearly defines a parasite as a different species--there is no way around it. Some PCers need to use cheap dehumanization tactics to bolster their otherwise weak argument. Pathetic.

Weak argument?!  I realize a woman telling another woman, whom she seeks to rob of her and all women, of their rights under the Constitution, would feel that way. Fortunately, words never have an effect when the agenda, action and intent, is what's being fought against, in the name of American freedom.


If PLers were concerned with life, they wouldn't assault and murder those who are fetus that have been born and matured to adulthood. So as to further the agenda that life is sacred and that's why the most violent zealous members of the PC faction kill life, to prove it.

So the issue then becomes timing. In Utero is wrong, according to the zealous PL movement. Post-utero is pardonable, so as to save life. The hypocrisy often results in a life sentence for that PL activist that pulled the trigger. Or 20 to life, for that PLer that plants explosives in abortion clinics so as to take lives to prove life is sacred.

And no, science does not define Parasite as a different species. The definition is succinct. A zygote/embryo/fetus is indeed a different organism, but it is not a different species to it's host.

Allow me to repeat from the medical dictionary so that you perhaps might understand that your amendment (different species) does not apply to the true definition of the word.

Parasite ~ An organism that lives in or on and takes its nourishment from another organism. A parasite cannot live independently.

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The "right to life" requires a capacity to effect an independent survival. A zygote, embryo, fetus (parasite) can not do this. A zygote/embryo/fetus has potential of becoming a legal human being. Citizenship in the U.S., by law and language, refers to those born or naturalized into the United States.
There are no rights or protections afforded in any country, for fetus, in International Human Rights Codes. Not even the Constitution of our northern neighbor grants citizen rights to the unborn. For obvious reasons. Miscarriage, spontaneous abortion, would result in persecution and prosecution of the female.

mountain_man wrote:

any biologist will tell you it does. The product of conception, while still inside the female, is not considered a parasite.

That's fascinating, because , as I've posted more than once, the biological dictionaries say differently. :)