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Deterrent?
4 years ago  ::  Aug 10, 2008 - 10:28PM #12
aquinasmind
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As a law major I see deterrence as a particularly weak argument agains the death penalty. If deterrence was the only reason to have the death penalty then we might as well get rid of the entire penal system. We have jails, prisons, and penitentaries that do not appear to deter crime. The point of the penal system is not to deter crime. The point of the penal system is to punish criminals and to make sure that they never prey on society again. The point of the death penalty is to send a message that as a society we value innocent human life. Mind you I am not arguing that there are not any good arguments against the death penalty, but that this is simply not one of them.
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4 years ago  ::  Aug 10, 2008 - 10:08PM #11
aquinasmind
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Here is a link to a rather extensive article presenting the pro-death penalty argument. I liked it and agree with much of it. Have a look at it at your leisure, and let me know what you think about it. It is important to study both sides of the issue as fairly and unbiased as possible.
http://www.wesleylowe.com/cp.html#deter
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 19, 2008 - 8:33PM #10
puzzleman
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Other nations do not have a problem with the death penalty and they have fewer crimes committed. They don't sentence criminals to 7 life sentences for killing police officers and pay taxes for overpopulated prisons. Connecticut prisons are so full we are sending convicts to other states. Sure, I believe God is merciful only because of the crucifixion of his son ( a very high price to pay for our sin). Everyone needs to be accountable for what they do here on earth.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 18, 2008 - 11:27AM #9
methodistsearching
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IMHO, whether it is a deterrent or not is irrelevant. Lots of things can be deterrents, but we don't use them because they are against our principles. Chopping off a hand or poking out an eye are probably pretty good deterrents also, but would anyone advocate that?

If our principles say that we are against killing, which it seems most of us are, then how can we be true to our principles if we say we want to kill people who kill?
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 18, 2008 - 11:27AM #8
methodistsearching
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IMHO, whether it is a deterrent or not is irrelevant. Lots of things can be deterrents, but we don't use them because they are against our principles. Chopping off a hand or poking out an eye are probably pretty good deterrents also, but would anyone advocate that?

If our principles say that we are against killing, which it seems most of us are, then how can we be true to our principles if we say we want to kill people who kill?
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 17, 2008 - 11:49PM #7
rosesinjanuary
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I don't think the DP is a deterrant, as was mentioned   previously   people really are not thinking too clear or are at least so obsessed I doubt the DP doesn't matter at that point.

I am against the penalty because of margin of error. I know some people who work in a high security prison and according to them there are innocents lost, manipulated? by our system.  They are picked on and it indeed breaks my heart.

If I was a prisoner I would prefer the death penalty, I believe I would get separate quarters and  overall its a better environment.  I can't remember the man's name maybe u can help me but he killed his beautiful wife < Lacie and her baby. I watched a documentary he was NOT suffering.   It actually costs MORE for a death penalty prisoner due to the legal issues and the continuous appeals, I found that surprising,.


You know what what would make an interesting topic?  (I know your holding your breath ha!)  Anyway, I think
I am going to be answerable someday for what I do now.   Do you think you will?   What do you think of the issue of karma?   signed lisa who sometimes talks too much!!!
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 17, 2008 - 6:34PM #6
nillawafer
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also, the penitentiary system in the u.s. was remodelled a long time ago as a place for penance, (hence, penitants--penitentiary), but it has become a place that seems to reinforce criminal thinking and behavior instead.
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4 years ago  ::  Jul 17, 2008 - 6:18PM #5
nillawafer
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i was enrolled in a community based corrections program 30 years ago, and at that time all studies seemed to suggest that the death penalty was not a deterrent. i don't know if that has changed. it is a deterrent only if someone is afraid of death. many people aren't. some people feel their lives are already worthless and they are going to die young anyway, so who cares if they get the death penalty. they don't feel their lives are worth much or there is nothing that can change the trajectory of it anyway. if i brutally killed someone i would be happy to die. it would be so much easier than spending a lifetime in prison and trying to redeem my life through introspection, healing and service to others.
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4 years ago  ::  May 30, 2008 - 8:40AM #4
bubbysmommy
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[COLOR="Blue"]A deterrent? I don't think so. I am in favor of the DP in some cases & you will never hear me say that. It is about exacting punishment. If you kill an innocent person in cold blood, you should expect no less. Quite simple really, until you start dealing with innocent people being handed a death sentence. So, at the end of the day, while I do believe that we need to keep the DP intact, I also believe that there must be an incredibly high burden of proof when seeking the DP. If that burden is met, there would be little need for more than one quick appeal & these monsters would not be sitting on death row until they die of natural causes, eating up our hard earned tax dollars. On the same note, we should not be imposing life sentences on non violent offenders. Their talents so to speak can be put to use serving the public. Therefore, earning their keep while they are serving their sentence. Of course, this is just my own humble opinion.  [/COLOR]
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4 years ago  ::  May 29, 2008 - 10:05AM #3
Tmarie64
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You'll never hear that from me.  I believe... You kill someone in cold blood, the state should kill you back.
I really don't care if it's a deterrent or not.
James Thurber - "It is better to know some of the questions than all of the answers."
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