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5 years ago  ::  Mar 18, 2011 - 12:55PM #811
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Abortion isn't murder when the baby's been shot :P

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5 years ago  ::  Mar 18, 2011 - 1:32PM #812
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Mar 18, 2011 -- 12:55PM, Iwantamotto wrote:

Abortion isn't murder when the baby's been shot :P

I have to ask you something~ have you ever had an abortion?
IF you have had one then you would know what an abortion does to a person.
I had one and I can tell you it's the worst thing that has ever happened to me in  my
entire 56 years on this Earth. It has litterly killed me inside.
I have NO real feelings left~ my real feeling were ripped out of my body the same way
that my son was. A women doesn't have to be "Shot" by a gun to have a baby killed.
No a baby's killed when a woman has a "legalized medical abortion".
I don't beleive in  abortion, NOT since 3-27-73 the day I had mine.
I DO  Beleive in ADOPTION. I'm A child of Adoption,as is my baby sister.
Both of us were given up at birth by our mother.
I was born in 1954 and my sister in 1963.
Before the word ABORTION was legalized.
MY son if I'd been allowed to have had him would have been given up  and placed
with the same adoption agency I was placed with.
I also helped a friends daughter afew years back chose NOT to abort her child.
Today my friend has a beautiful little granddaughter. And he thanks me for her.

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4 years ago  ::  Apr 08, 2011 - 10:22PM #813
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I had an abortion and I do not regret it.  I do regret that I was stupid enough to get pregnant when I was not prepared to take care of a child.  I know that had I had the child I would have had a very difficult time giving it up for adoption.  I don't mean to sound crass or cruel I was merely being practical.  I had not the means nor the maturity to handle it at the time and I now have two wonderful children who are adored and well cared for.   I would not have them if I had not given up the first one.

I never had another abortion it is not something that one is proud of and frankly I find it quite rich that folks call it murder.  Is war not just late term abortion for the middle to lower classes?  The wars that our pro life bretheren are so fond of sending our unaborted children off to fight.  Perhaps that is what bothers them so much, less bodies to put in the way of bullets that might come their way.

All through history women have died in child birth while others had too many to care for. A woman was forbidden to have control over how many children she would have.  It was a barbaric time for our gender and we are fortunate to live in a time when we can choose when and where we have children and most importantly we can control how many we have.  This is a wonderful thing provided to us by science and I am personally thankful for this.  The child I gave up would have had a hard life and the children I have now are much better off and exist because of the one I gave up.  

I appreciate them all the more because of a mistake I made and yes it was a mistake and sometimes we do not have to live with our mistakes, sometimes we have choices and we can make a better decision the next time round.  


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4 years ago  ::  Apr 20, 2011 - 8:17AM #814
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The "choice" to kill another human being is always there. Abortion kills your son or daughter no matter how many excuses one comes up with to justify it. The same excuses could just as easily excuse infanticide outside the womb as well. Both are still murder and wrong.

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4 years ago  ::  Jun 29, 2011 - 10:36PM #815
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is abortion murder ? no i dont belive it is however i dont agree with it in most cases but the choice should be left up to the women its her body and her choice


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4 years ago  ::  Jul 10, 2011 - 11:42PM #816
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Jan 23, 2009 -- 12:19PM, RiverMoonlady wrote:

I've read many posts on a prolife site where members state unequivocally that abortion is murder, that women who abort should be sent to jail and that the doctors who perform abortions should be stripped of their licenses AND jailed.  One poster even went so far as to say that anyone who performs an abortion on a teenager should go to jail for 35 years - but "only" 25 years for doing an abortion on an adult woman.  The posters who agreed with this were all male.  Hmmmm.

lol .. if the fetus is still in the fetus stage, not out of the womb - living and breathing and all that on its own, eating etc without help up the cord... how is it a person? sure in the 2nd and 3rd trimester i would hesitate and encourage the women to just put it for adoption at that point but...

oy, the sillyness of some people... ever notice how alot of pro life people cant back up their points with something other than the bible? i have come across individuals that use science etc and have a nice calm debate but...


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4 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 12:02AM #817
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Jan 25, 2009 -- 8:59AM, apotter wrote:

If it was God's choice for the baby to not be born, the mother would not be pregnant in the first place.

not true... what about cases of NATURAL miscarriages or still borns??

...not even gunna try to reply to your previous post

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 12:17AM #818
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Jan 25, 2009 -- 2:44PM, apotter wrote:

Teach all of our kids to respect themselves, and others.  Teach them not to have sex with someone other than your wife or husband, teach them to rejoice in the gift from God ,of a child, and we would no longer have abortions.


not everyong believes in the same god, some dont believe at all... so to want everyone to do things a certain way based on one interepretation of a book...

anti premarital sex - one off topic, two somewhat outdated and not for everyone...personally i would rather teach my kids how to have safe (no std or unwanted pregnancy) sex rather than no sex before marriage, so if they made a choice to when they are dating - they make mature and safe decisions...

"every child is a gift" um, maybe in the old times when modern medicine wasnt as good and life expentency was much lower...sure back then every conception was a gift since they didnt know if it would live to full term or past 2 years old...

i find a lot of biblical support and stuff -is a little outdated or out of context...

dont yell at us for interpreting your answer to suit our needs when you do the same thing about the bibel

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 11, 2011 - 12:27AM #819
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Jan 25, 2009 -- 7:54PM, apotter wrote:

Actually, Solfeggio, if you have been reading my comments, you would realize that I  (and probably most  pro-life people) really have no desire to lock woman up for having an abortion, we just want to end the killing of babies.  The problem seems to be the only way to stop something in this  world, is to make it illigal.  I myself ,have been the victim of many years of  molestation  in my youth and have also been the victim of rape.  Luckily, I did not become pregnant, however, if I had, I still would not have had an abortion.  I understand these are not black & white issues for all people, but they are for me.  If I had to make a decision between my life and the life of my baby, I would have to let God decide.  My life is not worth more than my baby's.   By the way, I can't speak for all Christians, but I am also anti-capital punishment, euthanasia, suicide, etc.

and who do you suppose is going to take care of all these babies when the mother doesnt want it? or if you were to have an unwanted pregnancy, and died because your body couldnt handle it? get put into terribly foster care, sit in an orphanage all their lives unloved??

i bet a loving, caring, nuturing gay couple would love to take care of your orphan - but wait? it would be unfair unethical for a child to not have a male and female perspective and it would be better for them to live in an abusive setting of a heterosexual couple

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4 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2011 - 3:19PM #820
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I'm AL and I am pro-choice.  Still, I want to ask if anyone has ever seen the reaction of a fetus being aborted?  I don't think abortion is an easy choice for thinking, feeling individuals.  Murder is the killing of another human being which brings us back to the question of when a fertilized egg becomes a human.  

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