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Is abortion murder?
3 years ago  ::  Jan 22, 2009 - 9:43PM #15
Tmarie64
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Solfie... LOVE that avatar. 

Daldi... I'm with solfie... guess not.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 22, 2009 - 9:27PM #14
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Guess not, Daldianus.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 22, 2009 - 3:50PM #13
Daldianus
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solfeggio wrote:

Is abortion murder?
No.

Abortion usually consists of removing an embryo from the uterine wall and disposing of it.  In some cases, an abortion means that a fetus has been removed before it is capable of living on its own.

In any case, abortion cannot be termed murder because nobody has been killed.

Where people get their knickers in a twist is that they have this idea that ending the life of a 'potential' human is some sort of sin.  Does the Bible say anything about abortion, either pro or con?  I have no idea.  But, I'm sure that somebody somewhere found some place in the Bible where the lord said it was wrong, or words to that effect.  But, heck, you can find anything you want in the Bible if you look hard enough.

Here's a link to an interesting article presenting the case that the Bible has nothing relevant to say, pro or con:

http://www.elroy.net/ehr/abortion.html

People as mindless boobs?  LOL  Unfortunately, a lot of people do fit this description.



Yet another pro-choicer I see!

Any pro-lifers?

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 22, 2009 - 3:49PM #12
Daldianus
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Tmarie64 wrote:

Re. cognitive dissonance...  Yes, it was obvious on the faces of every person asked.  They REALLY had not thought about it.
Why?   Could it be because they are mindless boobs who follow without question... "Thuh BAHHBLE sayed it so I blieve it"...  Even though they don't know that the bible says it, only that someone SAYS the bible says it.



Yes, it's really amazing ... they've been so focused on the aborted fetuses that they haven't thought about the actual consequences of their reasoning: either abortion is murder or it isn't, either murder needs to be punished or it doesn't.

They can't win this one.

Nor can they apparently admit that they themselves see a difference between a fetus and a person.

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 22, 2009 - 3:45PM #11
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Is abortion murder?
No.

Abortion usually consists of removing an embryo from the uterine wall and disposing of it.  In some cases, an abortion means that a fetus has been removed before it is capable of living on its own.

In any case, abortion cannot be termed murder because nobody has been killed.

Where people get their knickers in a twist is that they have this idea that ending the life of a 'potential' human is some sort of sin.  Does the Bible say anything about abortion, either pro or con?  I have no idea.  But, I'm sure that somebody somewhere found some place in the Bible where the lord said it was wrong, or words to that effect.  But, heck, you can find anything you want in the Bible if you look hard enough.

Here's a link to an interesting article presenting the case that the Bible has nothing relevant to say, pro or con:

http://www.elroy.net/ehr/abortion.html

People as mindless boobs?  LOL  Unfortunately, a lot of people do fit this description.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 22, 2009 - 3:20PM #10
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Re. cognitive dissonance...  Yes, it was obvious on the faces of every person asked.  They REALLY had not thought about it.
Why?   Could it be because they are mindless boobs who follow without question... "Thuh BAHHBLE sayed it so I blieve it"...  Even though they don't know that the bible says it, only that someone SAYS the bible says it.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 22, 2009 - 3:04PM #9
Daldianus
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Tmarie64 wrote:

"I haven't thought about that"....  Typical of many plers I've met... They ONLY want to impose their will on others, yet don't think about anything else.
If it's illegal how can they think there should be no punishment?
Break speed laws... Get a ticket
Steal... Go to jail.
Just proof that they don't think about the women.



It shows that they're approaching this problem in a very naive way and that they're being used by their leaders.

This question must create an enormous cognitive dissonance in them ...

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 22, 2009 - 3:03PM #8
Daldianus
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pIrish wrote:

I'm sure a lot of those views are pro-choicers coming in to see if any pro-lifers have responded yet...or pro-lifers waiting for another pro-lifer to respond first.



You're probably right.

Which makes me think that the pro-lifers in here are as well prepared for this question as those in that video ...

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3 years ago  ::  Jan 22, 2009 - 2:54PM #7
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"I haven't thought about that"....  Typical of many plers I've met... They ONLY want to impose their will on others, yet don't think about anything else.
If it's illegal how can they think there should be no punishment?
Break speed laws... Get a ticket
Steal... Go to jail.
Just proof that they don't think about the women.
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3 years ago  ::  Jan 22, 2009 - 2:46PM #6
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Daldianus wrote:

Come on ... 34 views and only ONE reaction to the original post? Don't be so shy!


I'm sure a lot of those views are pro-choicers coming in to see if any pro-lifers have responded yet...or pro-lifers waiting for another pro-lifer to respond first.

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